How to survive a nuclear fallout/chemical attack and a few more questions

Just wanted to let you people know that I'm a new member in this forum and wasn't certain if this was the right sub-section to post this thread. Nonetheless, I would like to inform and also ask some questions regarding how to survive a chemical or nuclear attack.

From what I researched, before or soon after a nuclear fallout, 130 ml of Potassium Iodine should be consumed every 24 hours to protect the Thyroid gland. However this is not advisable for people aged over 40 as they're more likely to develop Thyroid cancer from consuming Potassium Iodine, so what would you suggest for people aged over 40?

Lets say I was living nine miles away from ground zero of the nuclear blast, what would be the safest thing for me to do if I had no basement and lived on the ground floor of a Victorian style flat? It's not advisable to stay near a window so would hiding in some kind of storage room with no windows be useful? But what if the nuclear blast destroys the building and I'm basically trapped under tonnes of rubble?

What would you personally do to survive a nuclear blast? What type of tools, equipments, rations and or medications are appropriate?

Can a gas mask protect you from nuclear radiation/fall-out? I also read that lead prevents most of the radiation but to purchase a lead gear would be too expensive and heavy to carry anyway...
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Now let's say instead of a nuclear attack there was a chemical attack. If I'm 9 miles away of ground zero, how long will I realistically have to run away?

Let's say I lived in North London and there was a chemical attack in central London with the wind blowing North, would it be more appropriate to ride as far north as I can with a car that may be slower or faster than the speed of the wind depending on many factors, or would you advise me to travel east or west away from the direction the wind is blowing the gas... How far would chemical gas travel anyway? What if I keep driving North and by the end of the day end up at Liverpool, would the gas realistically reach the Midlands let alone Liverpool or would the chemical deadly gas just fade and fin out like butter scraped over too much bread.

I also learnt that breathing from a wet cloth can prevent the gas from truly affecting you and in fact urinating on a cloth and breathuing through that cloth will stop the chemical spores but that's only advisable against chlorine gas.

Any other advise, knowledge, fact, opinion or even question would contribute to this thread, it's good to prepare for the worse and hope for the best.

 

If the blast is close enough to destroy the house, you will probably die regardless. Nine miles isn't far at all.

 

Surplus NBC suits and gas masks are available for purchase...
NBC = Nuclear, Biological, Chemical.

In terms of a nuclear attack or accident; as falllout is usually in the form of dust...look for suits made of tyvek.

Potassium iodide pills to protect the thyroid are mainly for those 40 and under...if you're my age, for example...they won't do you much good.

 

I have access to a blastproof facility underground with air scrubbers, but what's the point? There are too many logistical issues.

Just go down the pub and have a laugh and drink until your skin, hair and teeth fall off and you and your mates fall off the bar stools.

 

Well I guess my best solution, even with minimum protection is to hide inside the storage room situated at the ground floor of our flat which more or less acts like a basement.

Thanks, I just checked this product on Ebay which doesn't cost much but would it be suitable for example? Is it fake...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soviet-US...aultDomain_0&hash=item35bcee5216#ht_740wt_932
latex-rubber mix

So what would you advise for someone of your age to take instead of Potassium Iodide?

Not really lol, in fact if I was in your position I would purchase a small stockpile of rations and store it at the basement every week.... I wish I was in your position lol

loooool the way you said that, problem is you won't find anybody at the pub because only sane people will be running for their lives finding ways to survive.

 

You can buy surplus British NBC suits from Gulf War I.

Also, buy a geiger counter. Avoid loitering in areas with extensive radiation is about the best advice I can give.
Potassium Iodide pills won't help all that much if exposed to high radiation for an extensive amount of time.
As I say, fallout usually consists of radioactive dust particles...a suit may protect long enough to evacuate an area high in radiation.

You don't want to stick around in other words.

 

people can survive the blast really easily with a closed cellar the problem is the nuclear winters that will follow if the radiation doesn't kill them first.

nothing will survive so there has to be alot of can foods saved up in the cellar to last for at least a year until all the radiation and storms go away, but it may take a few years dependent on the blast like say russia china us uk everyone fires their missles and it will take many years before outside is habitable for people again.

so the underground cellar room has to have at least a few years worth of rations and drinks and some sort of plumbing for survival to be possible.

 

If there was a nuclear attack you would all die regardless of how fast you could run.

We would all start burning alive like Sarah Connor did in Terminator 2. That movie shows the most realistic portrayal? of a nuclear bomb, we would all be dead in minutes.

 

Looolll I'm in Scotland. Everyone will be in the pub.

 

I just watched that stupid Prometheus film. Sarah Connor had it easy, not having to suffer through that tripe.

 

Preparing for the Olympics heh?

Why can't you just rent your flat for the Olympics, make a gobload of money, and if London gets nuked you can be safely away somewhere else with lots of cash.

Go to Spain. That's a nice place to wait out the radiation.

 

Ding ding... winna winna chicken dinnahhhhhhhhhhh

find a Japanese family looking for a flat to rent. You will make boatloads of money, and if you are honestly afraid... go to another country... with enough to get you by until money means less than food.


The only survivalist plan incorporates the ability to MAKE food. Research that.

 

Well there is a possibility of a terrorist attack during the London Olympics, ideally on the 4th of August according to conspiracy theorists and if it's true which I doubt you're very lucky that you reside in Scotland...

You see the Millennium dome was built at a proximity contaminated with poisonous, harmful and deadly substances such as benzene, naphtha, sulphuric acid, coal, tar, and ammonium sulphate, by-products dumped and left over from old factories which used to operate within that area. They covered the ground with thick layers of concrete and planted many trees around the area but even if a medium sized bomb were to be detonated near the Millennium dome, nothing will prevent poisonous chemicals being released, acting like a chemical/biological weapon. I live in North London and in any case of a biological attack I only have around 30 minutes to react accordingly or in other words escape or I'm doomed while you live in Scotland so you're very lucky and in any case you will never use your shelter.

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Millennium Dome

Mr. Maude: To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and the Regions to what depth the site of the Millennium Dome has been cleared of contaminants. [30516]

Mr. Caborn: The depth of contamination on the site to be occupied by the Millennium Dome varied widely. The majority of contamination was contained within the surface layer, which varied between 2 and 4 metres in depth. In isolated instances the contamination extended up to a maximum of 14 metres. The treatment applied to each part of the site depended on the type and depth of the contamination. No part of the site was treated to a depth of less than 2 metres and in places the treatment extended to 14 metres.

Mr. Maude: To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and the Regions what contaminants were present on the Millennium Dome site. [30515]

25 Feb 1998 : Column: 223

Mr. Caborn: A large proportion of the Millennium Dome site has been chemically contaminated to varying degrees as a result of former industrial activities, principally the generation of coal, gas and associated by-products. By-products include the manufacture of sulphuric acid and ammonium sulphate fertiliser in a dedicated chemical works as well as the production of coal tar and a range of organic chemicals such as benzene and naphtha in a separate tar works.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199798/cmhansrd/vo980225/text/80225w02.htm

 

I will just choose to remain in my house and see what later follows.