Hunting, a constitutional right?

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  1. KSigMason

    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    This would also push for our State's control over land and wildlife.
     
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    Seems reasonable. Assuming it does not grant those barred from hunting any sort of legal leverage on the issue.
     
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    I just got home so I'm going to try and look at the bill.
     
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    Here is where I found the text for the Resolution:

     
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    Ayuh,... I like it,...

    It's a reasonable article that oughta be in Every State Constitution...
     
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    It doesn't happen very often, but I think this law makes a terrific amount of sense. Apparently legislators can make intelligent laws after all.
     
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    It does happen from time to time.
     
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    It 's a sad sign of the times ,that states now have to make it a right to hunt or fish within that state. With more and more pressure being brought forth from anti-hunting groups,and tree huggers.Hopefully more states will follow Idaho,and make hunting ,trapping and fishing a right for their citizens.
     
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    Or legalize the hunting of stupid people. I jest of course. But now that I think about it...
     
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    13 states already have similar amendment. The oldest by far is Vermont added in 1777. It's sad such steps are necessary but it today's world even the most basic privileges are threatened.
     
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    I'm all for hunting rights - but let's remember that Federal laws override state laws. Therefore, your rights to hunt/fish/harvest wildlife must NOT interfere with Native American treaty rights. We have had lots of troubles in Minnesota-Wisconsin which deal with this issue. Whites have tried to use state hunting rights as an excuse to harvest in reservations or have tried to keep Indians from spear fishing. This in accordance with state law. However, they fail to understand that Native American treaty rights supervene. Thus, Indians have hunting/fishing priority rights per,

    Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause, establishes the U.S. Constitution, U.S. Treaties, made pursuant to the U.S. Constitution, shall be "the supreme law of the land."
     
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    This still means good conservation practices, doesn't it?

    There will still be limits and seasons and hunting licenses... right?
     
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    It wouldn't. Even if we subtract the Indian Reservations Idaho still has a vast amount land. We're not seeking to subvert the Indians.
     
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    Glad to see that. Wish there was some way people here in Minnesota-Wisconsin would learn to take that same attitude. After all, whether anyone likes it or not - it is the law.
     
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    Yes all ethical hunters are conservationist who want to insure future generations get to enjoy wildlife. Hunting licenses are vital with out them there wouldn't be game wardens or biologist to protect the wildlife from poachers. Most states use revenue from tags an licenses to lease land for wildlife. As well as stocking programs to replenish fish and wildlife. The states that pass such amendments are just insuring that hunting and fishing are protected for future generations.
     
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    Oh good.. My guys are Greenwing and DU.........
     
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    Indian reservations are not subject to state laws or constitution. They are for all rational purpose there own state. Much the same way they can operate casinos in states where they are illegal. I believe the Native American peoples have lost enough to us. So I for one support there rights.
     
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    I have many a fond memory of duck hunting in my youth.
    One of the many great successes in conservation.
    I'm primarily a deer hunter now but still love and appreciate all forms of the endeavor.
     
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    My guys gave up deer hunting in the 1970s. Being blooded was a real turn off for my 9 year old.
     
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    not subject to state laws

    True, at least in theory. But the Republican dominated US Supreme Court has a way of viewing the law in their own manner:

    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/onondaga_nation_seeks_publics.html
     
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    Well.. we have a right to bear arms and to peruse happiness, sounds reasonable but unnecessary.
     
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    Yes I would see how today generations would be opposed to that lol.
     
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    He's 44 now.. and tough as nails.. but at nine, he didn't like it... and I was surprised that the hunting party would get so carried away.
     
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    Well that issue a little more complicated than the issue you discussed earlier. I didnt get enough info from that link to gather an opinion. New York is a very liberal state the republicans there are more liberal than democrats where I'm from. The supreme court of the US has 4 conservative justices, 4 liberal justices and one independent justice Kennedy. I'm not saying you are mistaken just that I will have to look further into it before I could state an opinion on it. I will look for more info an get back on it.
     
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    I'm 38 now i killed my first deer at 12 my cousins and father came from behind me an emptied a entire 5 gal bucket over my head. Entrails and all needless to say I was pretty mad about it and I let that tradition die with me I didn't do that to my son. With CWD an other diseases these days I figured that tradition was better off left in the past. You get plenty of blood on you field dressing an processing. So that will have to do.
     

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