I don't understand why gays want to marry

You might need to explain to them what mammals do when they have more neocortex than mesocortex in their brain.

Check this out: http://stuff.digitalock.com/dune_prophesy.mp3 Dolphin talk comprehendable by humans. To us it is music, to them it is language.

 

I do not mind gay couples having rights under the tax structure and the same tax rights as man & woman.

 

It's all about the taxes.

In the old days it was about who got to inheret the throan (I meant that as a poetic way of saying... it was about determining the rights of inheritance, which became a problem for Catholics in the middle ages when there was such a thing as papal states and when a Bishop with multiple wives had too many kids stepping forward demanding a peice of property... that's when they got strict about the principal of marriage being one man and one woman), but today it's about taxes.

 

Exactly... and wait until they go through a divorce.

I heard that the first gay divorce happened in Canada, between two lesbians.

 

To me it's a question of... you guys really *want* this?

Seriously dudes... it makes no sense unless you're planning to bring up children, in which case you have to be in it for the long haul, whereupon it is justified for the tax benefits.

 

Gay people want the same things as straight people. (There. Your question is answered.)

 

http://stuff.digitalock.com/thenazz.mp3

 

Yeah, but the idiots don't know how much a divorce costs.

I feel like elaborating: http://stuff.digitalock.com/thenazz.mp3

 

How about leaving gay people alone and letting them do what they want to do.

If you are anti-divorce, then go on a serious campaign to remedy that.

Otherwise, stop with the phoney concern for the gay people who might/will get divorces. You're being annoying.

 

Lord Heavenly Father are you paid to say stuff like that?

Are you such an astrotufer that the best you can come up with is, "opponents of gay divorce are enemies of marriage"?

 

Are you against divorce or not?

If not, why are you concerned at all?

 

Astroturfer. Ran out of arguments so has to spin.

http://stuff.digitalock.com/inthehillsofshilo.mp3

Back to reality. If gays marry, they also have to deal with divorce. Ever been through one?

I don't think they know what they're getting into.

They think it's all sweetness with angels dropping roses in front of their parade, but really, it's serious.

 

I didn't run out of things to share, I just think what you are saying is ignorant and silly.

We're done for now.

Peace.

 

That's your feelings, but you didn't retort with anything adding to the knowlege of this thread.

I repeat... gays want to get married, but I bet they don't know what they're getting themselves into.

http://stuff.digitalock.com/raggletagglegypsio_dancemix.mp3

 

Do you have any idea what it is like to separate from a partner of several years with no legal framework? Do you have any idea what it is like to have a partner die after several years of living together and having no legal recourse over their family coming in and taking everything? I've watched friends go through this. No matter what legal documents the couple had drawn up, they were contested by their families in court and guess who won?

We are very well aware of what marriage means, and what divorce means. Why the hell do you think we're fighting so hard for the same rights as opposite sex couples? It's amazing to me that you don't understand that. You don't even know what you have.

 

So... you're saying that even if a same-sex couple drew up contracts and wills saying that property was to go to a partner upon death of the other, that family hucksters were able to have those overturned?

How? I don't get that. You're saying that a homophobic judge can retroactivly cancel a contract and can nullify wills?

 

So, you're talking about situations where two gay lovers lived and worked together for years to build up property, but then had a falling-out leading to separation, whereupon, because all the stuff was in just one of their names, the other got nothing even though that other had done half the work?

That's obviously unfair, given how if a hetero couple live together long enough they get classified as a common-law marriage, with all the same rights of inheritence-upon-death and splitting-of-assets-upon-separation as if they'd gone through a formal wedding process.

 

Oh yeah. I've seen it happen.

http://www.smarterdollars.com/property_issues.html

And also this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/gay-couples-financial-obstacles_n_1570505.html
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/same-sex-couples-federal-marriage-benefits-30326.html

 

Correct. O' isn't serious, even if he THINKS he is. What? Does he think homosexual people are uneducated children?

LOL!! He's standing on his soapbox, pretending that he's the ONLY person (gay/straight) who has thought these things over.

My God!! I have little patience for the foolishness.

 

Look up the rights, legalities and details that countless straight couples have enjoyed/endured; that is what homosexual couples want.

Why do YOU think gay couples cannot handle these things?

Are you out to rescue them before they 'suffer' as much as you seem to fear.

We'll, you have to know that what you are suggesting is just specious BS.

 

For those who think that ONLY "traditional" marriage is where it's at... consider this.

 

I never said any such thing. If gays want to marry, let 'em... it's nobody else's business.

My issue is that I've seen so many divorces get ugly that I wonder why *any* couple, strait or gay, bother to get legally hitched if there's not a good reason for it, and personally, the only reason I think good enough is if the couple wants to have or addopt kids.

Where did you get the idea I was thinking gays would be any more-or-less competent at handling the obligations of a legal union than straits? At the end of the day, people are people.

 

Okay.

I'll ask the question, another way:

TO ANYONE: Considering the possible legal PITFALLS (and many other things), why did YOU decide to get married?

It's a personal 'answer' (customized) that you will receive, once people get into the details. But the general answer(s) most people give you will be very similar.

People don't usually intend to marry, while (at the same time) considering divorce as a probability. Maybe what you're interested in or so concerned about can be covered best by a professional marriage counselor. Here are some mistakes that lead to 'divorce'. No matter what, some people are willing to take-on the problems that come with marriage and that will likely never change.

Interesting stuff.

 

Okay. Keep waiting for that answer you want.

Peace.

 

And you likely will not.