ICU NURSE: "You're being lied to about COVID."

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Have doctors and bureaucrats been totally honest about treating COVID 19?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've campaigned for public office four times already knowing full well that I would lose.......
    www.BankingSystemsFlaws.blogspot.ca/

    ... .but as for the future my at least leaving a paper trail sets me up to potentially rival Mr. Maxime Bernier for the office of national leader of the People's Party of Canada.......
    but that likely leadership race will not take place until after Canada's next federal election so for the moment......

    my writing about rivalling him......
    could actually draw some necessary FAME and / or infamy in his direction.......

    I don't need to be "qualified" to be elected to a political office.... I need to be perceived as more honest than the alternatives......... even if my ideas are seriously flawed!?


    People's Party of Canada Leader Maxime Bernier arrested by RCMP in Manitoba
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/maxime-bernier-manitoba-taken-into-custody-1.6062801


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    Of course and he frequently does, whilst insisting he uses the scientific method and debates properly. Anyway, what's it to you?
     
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    Well no, watching videos is a pain. I was referring to the link that posted the lies. Rereading them I agree on a couple..like "vaccines are safe for pregnant women ". I think that's definitely a "lie" . I just didn't find the bulk credible ...
     
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    Name some and evidence of their grievances.
     
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    Thank you for your honesty.

    I plead GUILTY of being ignorant
    on this whole topic. My wife and I were both scheduled to take the Pfizer on May 26 so for the three weeks prior to our appointment I did a lot of both reading and listening related to all this. I soon asked my wife to cancel my appointment for me and a few days later I sent her the link to a video by Dr. Simone Gold and she also cancelled her appointment. One month before our appointment to take the first Pfizer shot I was of the impression that it might be one of the better variations on the vaccine....... but as of today.......
    I suspect that the evidence coming out of Israel where about sixty two percent of the population have taken the Pfizer shot.....
    seems to indicate that it could turn out to actually be one of the "worst" of the vaccines????

    Most of our kids have taken at least one shot of the vaccine and some of them have taken both shots. So far... our kids are OK. (Personally..... I consider my wife to have a special connection to Jesus and I tend to give Jesus most of the credit for our kids being generally healthy so far after being vaccinated).
     
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    No. Ivermectin has been tested to be reasonably effective, but at levels that are 100 times higher than regulators passed. This is a reassigned medication and if this was done as a means to help by the mainstream, the conspiracy theorist noise makers would be up in arms about it! FYI using medication in a way it was not created for amounts to extremely poor medical practise!

    So did the field trials.

    So what. You seem to be ignoring where it moves the crazy conspiracy world.

    And more fail. NO not even close. As detailed above.



    Batshit conspiracy garbage. The truth IS known and it is not as claimed by those who have no clue. Tests and trials have been performed on these untested reassigned drugs and they were found to be only useful when taken at toxic levels.

    Why is it that conspiracy noise never comments on the potential side effects for these drugs?
     
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    No Mr. Unobservant. Post #7 above.
     
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    Well doctors in the field will disagree with you that successfully treat patients with these cheap generic drugs. The tests you talk about did not use suggested doses but high doses and the ones that didn't, like for Hydroxychloroquine showed a 30% improvement. Same with the clinical trails for zinc and vitamin D.
     
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    And of course they have documented it and released this evidence? No, of course not. You are now talking about HCQ and that is a contributory drug that can work at tolerable levels.

    I am encouraged by this (and have not denied the effectives of HCQ). As are the mainstream medical fraternity. At no point has any of this been ignored, swept aside or covered up.

    Hydroxychloroquine is effective, and consistently so when provided early, for COVID-19: a systematic review - PubMed (nih.gov)

    Ivermectin however is not as good as claimed - this is the one that requires excessive dosage. Doctors claiming massive success are exaggerating - notoriety and more patients is a wonderful recompense! Full recovery from a virus using these drugs amounts to them experimenting in the first place and that is very, very poor medical practise.
     
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    In case you missed it, which would not be surprising, they do document it but are banned from platforms to present it.
     
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    AFAIK it is legit. Yeadon slipped off the deep end into the world of crazy. Why are you so unable to simply research this dead easy thing? You could acquire skills in doing so that could help you sift through and discard most of the garbage you seem fixated on.

    The ex-Pfizer scientist who became an anti-vax hero. (reuters.com)

    "In October, Yeadon wrote a column for the United Kingdom’s Daily Mail newspaper that also appeared on MailOnline, one of the world’s most-visited news websites. It declared that deaths caused by COVID-19, which then totaled about 45,000 in Britain, will soon “fizzle out” and Britons “should immediately be allowed to resume normal life.” Since then, the disease has killed about another 80,000 people in the UK."
     
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    Sure they are. The wonderful world of hearsay. If any one of these doctors created a $15 website/blog and posted on a conspiracy forum it would be viral in minutes. There is no data to back up their claims. I love serendipity, but please explain to me by what medical guidelines do these irresponsible physicians feed misappropriated medicines to their patients without prior full field trials!?
     
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    There are other studies that show effectiveness and of course India had great success with the generic drug combinations.
     
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    I don't doubt any of this. None of it has been covered up. Like the disease itself, some will benefit from it and some will not. Ivermectin used in small doses is safe but not very effective - which is basically where this thread started at.
     
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    (post #3)
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...g-lied-to-about-covid.591149/#post-1072862406
    You already know how an anti-vaxxer is going to answer. You seem to be trying to waste as much of my time as possible.

    Watch this video. The answers are there.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...g-lied-to-about-covid.591149/#post-1072865575
     
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    I personally feel confident the vaccine helps. And I think antibodies from previously having it is a protection too.

    I've seen many co workers and family members get covid and it's been mostly mild...or bad flu symptoms...I can count about 30 in my circle who have contracted it.

    However last week a sister of my sister in law and the sisters husband just died one week apart. They were in their mid fifties, healthy and their boys are now planning a double funeral. They both weren't vaccinated. I think it could have prevented their deaths ...
     
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    Your reasoning sounds logical....
    but from what I have read and listened to if they had been encouraged to take zinc, D3 and C their lives could have been saved and their general overall health would have improved as well.

    I also have taken MSM since 1999 and I upped my dosage of this natural version of nutritional sulphur since a year ago because it assists the body to detoxify.

    They also should have had hydroxychloroquine and ivermectine made available to be taken as a preventative but BigPharma is forcing governments that they practically own to take those low cost treatments off the markets. I am hearing that up here in Canada it is very difficult for doctors to prescribe either hydroxychloroquine or ivermectine.



    I think that the one sentence explanation for this video is logical.

    https://rumble.com/vl2uxz-icu-nurse-youre-being-lied-to-about-covid..html

     
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    It's no worse than bad seasonal flu? What an idiot! Seasonal flu doesn't pack hospitals worldwide with hundreds of people unable to breath.

    Did Dr. Roger Hodkinson Call COVID-19 a Hoax? | Snopes.com

    Keep going conspiracy theorists! There are many, many stories like this - how coincidental that he caught "bad flu"!
    A leading conspiracy theorist who thought COVID-19 was a hoax died from the virus after hosting illegal house parties (yahoo.com)
     
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    Actually if the TRUTH about how effectively COVID 19 can be PREVENTED and / or treated by hydroxychloroquine combined with zinc or with ivermectin, (had NOT BEEN SUPPRESSED BY BIGMEDIA who are significantly supported by BigPharma advertisements), based on the research that I saw so far it seems that more than ninety percent of the deaths from COVID 19 could have been prevented in the United States, Canada and most of Europe, so what Dr. Roger Hodkinson stated in his video is obviously true. Many people could well be prosecuted under The Nuremburg Codes over the next five to ten years!

     
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    You haven't been up to Canada lately have you?

    Word has it that many Canadian physicians who are willing to risk their careers to use either hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin in order to try their best to save the lives of their patients are not being allowed to prescribe it for their patients!!!!!!

    In my opinion........ actions like that could well be considered by a court of law to be a possible violation of The Nuremburg Code????

    Canadian physicians who have attempted to obtain either hydroxychloroquine and / or ivermectin for their patients would seem to fit the description of "expert witnesses" in my opinion!
     
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    Five exclamation marks and from what? "Word has it"? Whose word! This is not for general prescribing, but family and friends. It is also linked to a complete lack of clinical trials. This is a fundamental requirement of medicine.

    Doctors face sanctions for prescribing unproven COVID-19 drugs to friends and family, regulators warn | CBC News

    Four question marks for your opinion?

    Nonsense opinion is nonsense.
     
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    So do you admit that you are so off the scale IGNORANT and or......
    irrelevant and disrespected by pretty much everybody..... in this debate that you.......
    haven't heard a thing about what is happening related to all of this as it pans out in Canada???????

    So are you attempting to remain ignorant of the type of issues that have been presented to Canadian physicians or.....
    is it just that you are totally disinterested in any news out of Canada???????


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rty-third-level.590334/page-2#post-1072872830



    If you were to trace some of these links back.... you all of a sudden might just realize that in 2021 we Bluenosers from Nova Scotia could perhaps liven up the debate.......

    I will make it easy for you....
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...tional-debt-of-canada.590409/#post-1072872662
     
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    Wow, when a very ignorant person makes such a statement it actually makes me laugh. You, who sign on to every single crazy batshit conspiracy, no hint of any understanding or relevant education, no hint of proper research and always seeking out garbage that fits your poor preconceived hogwash.

    As for being "disrespected by everybody", you and your tiny group on this forum who spread batshit, don't actually qualify as everybody. Your respect is irrelevant to me, as is pretty much everything you type.

    Seven exclamation marks? Careful scott/cosmored doesn't turn up and "correct" your grammar! I just posted a summary of the main issues, so clearly you refuse to read or don't understand basics.

    You really aren't that smart are you. Read the link I posted.

    Seven exclamation marks again. I'm just not interested in your extremely useless claims and opinions.
     
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