Idiots with guns, once again

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  1. ECA

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    But shouldn’t CA be at the same level as MA since both have similar strict gun laws? How do you explain the higher number? I mean...3.4 to 7.9....that’s quite a jump.
    BTW...ME is also in the top ten for low gun deaths. ME is not a strict gun law state
     
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    Nice way of shifting the numbers from reality to falsehood by comparing 100,000 per incident, to how many people live in a state.

    You are moving the goalposts and losing the debate.
     
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    Do they have the exact same gun laws? Plese present your evidence of such. And where are the lax gun law states ranked?
     
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    BTW...ME is also in the top ten for low gun deaths. ME is not a strict gun law state
     
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    How come that is the only one?
     
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    We know it has nothing to do with severe gun control in MAl. Severe gun control leads to more crime including more gun crime. That is just what happens when the law abiding are disarmed in the face of savage criminal violence.

    “An independent report, Illegal Firearms in the UK, to be published by the Centre for
    Defence Studies at King's College in London tomorrow, says that handguns were used in
    3,685 offences last year compared with 2,648 in 1997, an increase of 40 per cent. “
    THE TELEGRAPH, “Gun crimes soaring despite ban brought in following Dunblane", David Bamber,, 7/15/01.

    Gun Control Kills.
     
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    Boy 2001. Do you have anything from the 1800's?
     
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    Well...ME is ranked in top ten of low gun deaths : )
     
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    Don't know. I just know ME has very lax gun laws and is in the precious top ten you've been pushing : )
     
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    Yeah it is a puzzle. Nine out of ten have strict gun laws....even though MOST of the states are lax gun law states. It sure is a puzzle. LOL
     
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    I've been answering your questions so save the attitude. Don't be a complete dick, ok?

    Clearly it's NOT just about the gun laws. If it were ME wouldn't be in the top ten. If it were CA would have the same level of gun deaths as MA.
     
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    But why is ME in the top ten? Shouldn't the gun deaths be MUCH higher? How do you explain that?
    How do you explain CA at 7.9 compared to MA at 3.4? That seems odd given the strict guns laws of both states. Surely they should have similar gun death rates.
     
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    It must be magic....or just a GIANT COINCIDENCE....yeah that must be it.
     
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    Coincidence you say? Heh heh
     
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    How do you explain that ME is the only one in the top ten? Why aren't they ALL lax gun law states? Why isn't the state with the most LAX gun laws at number one?
     
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    No no no. GIANT COINCIDENCE. It just has to be a fluke.....right?
     
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    Lets look at the bottom ten....that has to have strict gun law states....oh wait.....another giant coincidence! It has none!
     
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    How about 2018?

    "The number of violent crimes and sex offences recorded by police in England and Wales has risen sharply over the past year, figures suggest.
    Knife crime and robbery also increased in the 12 months to September 2017 compared with the previous year, the Office for National Statistics said.
    About 5.3 million crimes were recorded in all in that 12-month period, up 14%."
    BBC, Crime statistics: Violent crime and sex offences rising, police figures suggest, 25 January 2018.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42815768

    Severe Gun Control = Savage Criminal Violence

    How could it not?
     
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    Crime rates go up and down but Still safer than many places in america

    London is ranked 118...look at all those US cities ahead of them

    https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings.jsp
     
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    So you just ignored my questions and asked your own? Now, now...you know it doesn’t work that way. At least give a little effort.
     
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    Dude you have done that this entire thread! When I call you on it you say that is an answer.
     
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    So you admit I do answer you. Cool
     
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    Seven of the top ten states with lowest gun murders are all very gun-friendly states. Two are middle of the road regarding gun laws and only ONE has strict gun laws. How do you explain that?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_death_rates_in_the_United_States_by_state
     

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