If Government tries to enforce anti-gun legislation, OK City will happen again.

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  1. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

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    That's right.

    If the Government tries to pull what it pulled in the 90's when Janet Reno tried to reign in gun owners in this country with Jackboot Thuggery, resulting in the deaths of children, a lone man responded with a terrorist act that while heinous and unforgivable, worked by scaring the anti-gun crowd into a silence that last until now.

    Try it again, and you'll see a repeat of the 90's with Branch Davidian types and Rand Weaver types fighting against jackboot thugs in masks with MP5's vs shotguns and rifles and you'll see agents die, just like in the 90's.

    You might even see some mad individual truck bomb another Federal building. You just never know.

    Don't kick over this termite nest, you won't like what comes out.
     
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    Oh, so we should cave to threats of TERRORISM, huh?
     
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    Those who support the gun grabbers caved long ago.
     
  4. Gorn Captain

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    The gentleman above is the one issueing the threat.

    Apparently if we outlaw armor-piercing bullets....he will support people, including CHILDREN, being BLOWN UP in Federal buildings.
     
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    You're twisting his words. You're doing what liberals typically do... using emotion to spin and twist what others say. The original poster didn't threaten anyone. He drew a line between cause and effect. Simmer down, take your meds. Then go back, read it again, and at least try to be objective.
     
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    I don't see any "threat" issued in the OP....what I see is SiliconMagician rightly warning of the potential ramifications to authoritarian central planners infringing on individual rights and liberty.....
     
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    Its tough to operate a truly secret police force in America. Hackers can get into agencies' personnel files.

    One day Jackboot Jimmy leaves the house to go to another day of oppressing the people and he has a fatal car accident. Or walks into both barrels of a twelve gauge. No need to blow up buildings.

    Real policemen know they can operate only because they have a certain credibility in the community. When they get outed as enemies of the people, its time to find another job.
     
  8. SiliconMagician

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    No, you don't have to. I guess you like seeing FBI, ATF agents and innocent American citizens taking each other out. Maybe you don't feel as bad when "rednecks" get killed, hmm?

    More children were killed at Waco than in any school shooting in history, but attacking a church full of gun owners paramilitary style has consequences.

    I guarantee you Obama doesn't want that kind of bad press.

    Obama doesn't want to have to explain to America why one of his agency snipers took out a woman holding an infant in her arms like at Ruby Ridge.

    You can't win. The Constitution is a brick wall. Keep slamming your head into it. I'll keep laughing.
     
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    Why would you want to ban all hunting ammunition on the market...?

    You don't know what armor piercing bullets are, do you?
     
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    Really? So if I said "If you do something I don't like....you'll see terrorist attacks"....is simply "drawing a line between cause and effect" and not a threat?
     
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    They pierce armor.

    I know their value in hunting....given all the deer wearing Kevlar.

    BTW, only an example....the Top Poster said "anti-gun legislation"....perhaps he will be fine with "anti-ammo legislation". He seems a reasonable sort.
     
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    So after saying that "anti-gun legislation" will lead to domestic terrorism.....you attack ME for supposedly wanting innocent Americans killed?

    And this is logical to you?
     
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    So, if bullets pierce armor they should be banned?

    Why ban all rifle ammunition in the country?

    You don't know what armor piercing ammunition is, do you?

    You are not in a position of authority, do not act like it. You look foolish.
     
  14. SiliconMagician

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    I didn't threaten anyone. I'm telling you we went through this crap before during the Clinton admin and it got a black eye for its efforts and was under mass investigation for their jackbbot thuggery and then a bomb goes off and suddenly gun control just isn't important to the government anymore. Raids on isolated farm houses stopped, and gun control legislation was quietly allowed to sunset.

    No one will admit it, but we all know why this happened. Because Americans are more afraid of jackboot government than they ever will be of the odd maniac.
     
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    Jesus Christ. Someone report this phycho to the authorities. Vague threats of blowing up buildings?

     
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    Is that a THREAT! FBI needs to look at the IP address of Silicon Magic and put his assss on a watch list!
     
  17. SiliconMagician

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    Do it yourself. See what happens. NOTHING.

    Are you trying to claim, that the right wing terrorism of the 90's didn't work? After killing the Weavers and Branch Davidians over enforcement of gun laws similar to what is being called for now, and a right wing nut blew up that building, suddenly the Government wasn't raiding gun owners anymore.

    Suddenly the gun laws quietly lapsed with no argument from Dems. Why? Because they know that to enforce these laws will lead to needless death more vile than what you are trying to stop.

    You say we can't stop an Army? Don't need to. Just a few high profile screw ups by uncle sam, and this will all go away.
     
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    I will and you may or may not be right.
     
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    I honestly think the OP is wrong on this one. People who use bombs to kill, Mcveigh, Unibomber, Kehoe (bath michigan) are their own separate breed. They would use this method to inflict mass casualties no matter what weapons were available to them.

    Its because its not as personal and more for sending a message rather than any personal rage they feel at the moment. The amount of work and planning required to pull these off could easily be applied to the purchase of any weapons they want by way of the black market. They are motivated enough to find any type of guns they ever need yet they prefer bombings. I don't think banning guns is going to lead to more of these types of incidents since, in my view, they are indicative of a certain type of individual, not the circumstance.

    I equate it to how a serial killer would operate.
     
  20. SiliconMagician

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    Thats not my argument. My argument is that Government will overzealously attempt to enforce gun laws and they'll go screwing around with isolated ppl in thw woods and get shot and shoot back and kill innocent kids.

    This could set off another McVeigh.

    There is a reason after OK City and ruby ridge and waco the government suddenly went silent and dems are afraid to touch the issue.

    Because all of them know there is another class of crazy. This crazy is otherwise harmless until uniformed ppl with guns and black helicopters show up.

    The American Left talks big, but when it comes down to it they know all it takes is one kid or woman die at the hands of Government agents, and all this screaming about gun control stops tomorrow.
     
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    You think Timothy McVeigh's views are representative of most Americans' views???
     
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    How about those who seem SYMPATHETIC to the serial killer???
     
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    You are a master of distortion. Yes, of course it's wrong to use such acts, but to construe the OP's "if, then..." statement to mean support for murder is ultimate distortion. That's like saying Ron Paul supports the Taliban because he articulated the Taliban's motives. :invisable:
     
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    Yet another post predicated upon an inability to understand English.
     
  25. SiliconMagician

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    Of course not.

    I just know it is really strange that after 2 high profile shootouts and a bombing. The oomph to enforce gun control legislation suddenly disappeared.

    I think its because the Politicians and career agents got the message. If widescale coercive enforcement is ever carried out, then Ruby Ridge and Waco could occur on larger scales and with tragic consequences when nutjobs like McVeigh get stirred to action by the Jackboot tactics of Government.

    It doesn't take an army. Just the internet youtube and a few high profile shootouts in backwoods America and the Government will stop.
     

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