If Trump is convicted, he just might be sent to prison, here's why:

And you know this, how?

 

Don’t feed the large ugly cave-dweller.

 

Why would the Secret Service violate a lawful order by the NY court, due process, and the Constitution ?

 

Because it won't be a lawful order to strip Trump if his detail. Trump's detail exists BY LAW. His detail won't surrender his protection because a crooked state judge says so.

 

Yes, they will or be arrested and taken into custody for obstruction of justice.

The honest and honorable judge might even lock up his detail for contempt.

Yet another example of a rightie pissing on the Constitution when it suits him.

 

WBK, Trump's not going to jail, he's in a club of 46. But, if having a SS detail is you last line of defense from crimin' that's pretty ****ing low!

Maybe, one can buy SS details in the future, WBK, you might be onto something brah...!!

 

Thread title seems a bit misleading. Does the OP realize that this is something judges say to people routinely and that contempt of court can put anyone in jail, usually briefly?

 

If it actually came to that, which I don't think it will, I think Trump's secret service detail would turn on him and help the New York state police.

 

The judge addressed that point. He said he already gave the Parker warnings, but in the case of Trump, given that he is the former President of the United States, He's going to give it again for the reason it will have special significance.

 

Yeah, I just don't see that happening...lol

 

1. Federal law supercedes state law. A state judge can't relieve Trump's security detail. We're talking national security issues, at that point

2. Use what little common sense you can muster: who do you think the cops are going to side with? The anti-cop Manhattan DA, or fellow law enforcement officers (Secret Service)? The New York cops would be well within their duty to refuse to go muzzle to muzzle with the Secret Service and tell the judge and the DA that they just need to work things out.

Don't forget, every police union in New York endorsed Trump in 2020.

 

It would completely depend on why Trump is being jailed. I don't think they would jail him without a very good reason, and I don't think he will give them one.

 

AFAIK in criminal trials, even in NY, the judge, not the jury, decides the punishment. The chance of the judge accepting any contrition from Trump is zero to none.

 

That doesn't mean "his detail" can't be accommodated in prison and work there shift there.

 

Election fraud is a pretty iron clad reason.

 

AS is the chance of tRaitor tRump showing any.

 

When I said 'the jury's verdict', I meant the sentencing would arise from a guilty verdict. Of course a judge sets the sentence. I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

Whether or not the judge would accept contrition is a moot point, because the likelihood of such is zero from a guy like Trump. Remember, this is the guy who, when asked about if he had ever asked God for forgiveness, he claimed he didn't have to because he has no sins. yeah, he did say that. What are the odds he is going to be remorseful? I doubt it.

 

A jail time for Trump, and let the Sisters take care of him.

 

What election fraud? If you mean Jan 6, Based on what I have seen (which may or may not be less than you have) I am not convinced he is criminally liable for that. And given your obvious bias, spelling his name like you do, I won't take your word for anything on this matter any more than I would a die hard Trump supporter.

 

He is having difficulty keeping all his marbles in the same bag at the moment



He has gaffed more since this was put out

 

At the moment Trump is having difficulty finding his own arse with both hands let alone continue campaigning

 

Not to mention SS agents have sworn to uphold the Constitution just like T**** did although I'm betting they take it more seriously than he did.

 

Bribing a whore to keep her mouth shut so it doesn't affect the election is election fraud. I spell his name like I do because IMHO tRaitor tRump IS a traitor with a fat ass.

You won't take my word for anything?



Whatever will I do

 

Federal law does NOT cancel a state proceeding. A state judge might not be able to relieve a federal security detail but the feds do not have jurisdiction over a state matter. In fact, just prior to Trump's arraignment he was arrested. By definition and by law, he was in New York State custody until the outcome of the hearing when his custody status was determined by the judge and the prosecutor ( no "pre-trial detention" was requested and he was "released pending trial" with no bail or appearance bond requirement). If , for a legit legal reason(like contempt), the judge orders Trump into custody, the federal government and the Secret Service have no jurisdiction or power to ignore that order. And if they try, they are in violation of the Constitution and subject to federal prosecution. Remember, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” The power to deal with State crimes are reserved to the states. Trump is a private citizen and subject to state law.

Use what little common sense you can muster: Policemen don't get to pick sides when given an order. The New York police would be faced with the choice of doing their duty or being fired for cause. And if you think the Secret Service would fire on fellow law enforcement officers, you're just as ignorant and crazy as the Orange Stain. They might be invited to share the cell with Orange, but that's about as far as it would go.

The police union president who endorsed the Orange Stain, Patrick Lynch, is a real nut job who most of the rank and file detest. His endorsement means nothing to this situation. Didn't mean much in the general election either.

 

No warden on the planet is going to allow an armed security detail to reside inside his prison.