The illegal immigration of all races, most notably Mexican, has been in constant discussion. What is mainly discussed is the all the morals, and the immigrants families, and on and on. It is almost ignored that while America is arguing the topic, nothing is being done, except having the limbo effect on these illegal immigrants, some of which have lived their whole lives in America. They think America is their home, so they won't willingly leave, but they cannot get a formal education due to their lack of social security numbers and papers. At the same time these people are also not paying taxes. Experts estimate almost 10 billion dollars would be added to the US government, yearly if all these people taxes, were being filed, and enforced. This extra money could be sent directly back to the IRS who have been having a tough time collecting taxes in recent years. All the taxes not being collected is putting a toll on other taxed Americans. It is urgent that this is stopped and the solution comes from the immigrants.
Japan has more sales for adult diapers than for children. That's not a good sign,and shows they don't have people coming in. I'm dubious to the senate's comprehensive approach,as I think it misses the mark on many accounts. The house Dream Act/Ag Worker/Stem approach I think is a better way to possibly go.
Obama gonna shore up the Social Security system with more immigrants... Obama: U.S. Needs More Taxpayers; Calls for Fewer Babies But 'More Immigrants' July 13, 2013 - President Barack Obama said today America needs "more immigrants" to increase the number of people who pay taxes to the federal government and to populate the national workforce.
Before you suggest letting in hoards of younger workers from other countries, you need to ask yourself why the Japanese have been having so few children in the first place. Their aging population is only a symptom of a deeper problem. If you just flood the country with cheap foreign workers, the real problems are going to get worse. There is a huge number of Japanese trapped in low paying jobs who barely earn enough to afford housing (the cost of living is high in Japan, especially in the cities). Unemployment is also rather high, although the official government statistics downplay this. Despite the serious employment problems, there are still politicians claiming that Japan does not have enough nurses to take care of its aging population. Goro Ono, honorary professor at Saitama University in Japan, wrote, "If industries where labor is in high demand pay adequate salaries, people will work there." Ono used nursing as a good example. "Japan is actively bringing in Indonesians and other foreigners to cover a shortage because nurses in Japan are woefully underpaid. While on the other hand, public entities never have trouble finding garbage collectors because they get decent salaries." Ono also brought up the lack of discussion about the cost of building infrastructure to accept more immigrants. ("Bringing Foreign Workers Ruins Japan", Goro Ono)
This: If you have no steady job / proper market you will not try to have a family. a interesting article about this on: http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/139589/alexandra-harney/japans-silver-democracy
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY! Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries. The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them. Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites. What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries? How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem? And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this? But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews. They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
If immigrants really contribute to the economy, then I say make them pay taxes into a separate pool that would go towards providing their healthcare and education for their children. If they cannot even adequately provide for themselves, what makes you think they earn enough to be able to provide a net contribution? And if they do get a higher paying job, I thought that we did not have enough good paying jobs to go around for everyone, so would it not just cause unemployment for someone else? Something else to consider is that, even if the GDP does increase, if the population increase is greater than the total GDP increase, living standards will go down. Simple ridiculous example: If I bring a pan-handling homeless man into my house, the net household income will go up just a little, based on the sheer fact that there are more income earners. To claim that immigration "contributes" to the economy seems to be a very curious claim.
The problem is we have however many people here illegally now,not paying taxes,using some services and without a stake in the country. Since they are already here and in most cases working already,the jobs are obviously being done one way or another. I don't consider that really hurting workers,if anything it helps all workers since those who are illegal would then have legal protections and not be as easily taken advantage of.
I'm inclined to agree with some of what you say. On someother things,I am sure you will strongly disagree with me. We really do not need to import more low skilled people. Construction and trades are flooded now. Agriculture in my view does need a new worker program,not necessarily more workers,but a change inhow it operates. Right now,too many of the workers get lost in the system and simply go into construction or the other trades. Not sure what your take is on those already here illegally, I don't consider that "importing"more low skilled people,as they are already here. If they get legal status I would argue wages may go up,as unscrupulous employers will not be able to take as easy of advantage and undercut wages.
The United Nations presented data Wednesday showing that in this time of unparalleled international migration, Russia retains the second largest number of such migrants in the world, after the US. In order, the ten countries hosting the largest quantities of international migrants according to the UN data are: the US with 45.8 million, Russia with 11 million, Germany with 9.8 million, Saudi Arabia with 9.1 million, the United Arab Emirates with 7.8 million, the United Kingdom with 7.8 million, France with 7.4 million, Canada with 7.3 million, Australia with 6.5 million, and Spain with 6.5 million. At present, 232 million people (3.2% of the world’s population) are living abroad. Migrants in Russia have been being subjected to legal checks on a mass scale in Moscow and other regions in the aftermath of a July 27 incident at an open-air market in Moscow that left a police officer with a broken skull. The workforces of Russia’s markets often host large concentrations of Central Asian migrant workers. According to RIA Novosti, Russia’s economy is heavily dependent on immigrant labor, particularly from Central Asia, but there is widespread opposition within society to increased levels of immigration. There are about 3 million illegal immigrants in the country, according to official estimates. During one 24-hour period in August, for instance, Russia’s Interior Ministry conducted more than 1,700 raids, registering approximately 1,000 immigration law violations as a result. http://rapsinews.com/news/20130912/268818377.html Unfortunately the fact is that the quality of the migrants who have come to Russia leaves much to be desired –mainly unskilled staff, sometimes the ppl with criminal past /future. And, to a greater or lesser extent other above-enumerated countries from this list have the same problem too.
In economic terms, it is more advantageous to have them undocumented. They still have to pay payroll taxes where they work but are ineligible for many public benefits. The IRS has traditionally been very coy with supplying information on the true amount of money illegals pay in. I saw something on TV that indicated a lot of illegals intentionally pay in taxes because it will help them eventually document their continuous presence in the US in anticipation of the laws being changed in their favor. The first generation or two of immigrants to the US tend to be very poor and take more than they contribute. The latter generations are the ones who see greater economic success. Of what I know of the proposals, none of the adequately address the practical realities of illegal immigration though, so I find all the proposals lacking.
Illegal immigration costs this county billions of dollars a year, and also costs the States a fortune, especially border States. I just don't get why Dems and some Repubs keep saying that the system is broke. The only way I see that it is broke, is that our immigration laws are not being enforced.
If anybody could be dumb enough to fall for this con job video, I've a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them. Reduce deficit, by giving legalization to millions of illegal aliens who reduce tax payments by the lower wages they work for, and the off the books jobs they work at ? Reduce the deficit by continuing the anchor baby racket in which 57% of America's welfare $$$ are going to immigrant families with kids ? (instead of deporting them and saving all that money). And "grow the economy" by continuing the drain away of $40 Billion/year of US dollars lost out of the US economy to remittances$$$ ? And encouraging more immigrants to arrive, and do the same ? As for greater innovation, here the video takes the one aspect of immigration that is good (entrepreneurs bring capital to open businesses and hire AMERICANS and people bringing needed skills), and pretends that this is a big issue, when both of these are a drop in the bucket of overall immigration, with 99% of the immigrants bringing nothing but lack of education, and open hands to receive welfare $$$. As for skills, generally all they possess of those are how to play the system for its tax money, and swipe jobs away from Americans, who, if in the jobs immigrants have, those Americans' wages would be higher, and thereby their taxes paid as well.
