In an Act that NO ONE VOTED FOR, Biden Withdraws Trump’s US Sanctions on Iran

Yep, nearly 30 years ago your bogeyman was only 6 months from having the materials for a nuclear bomb and just a few years from a nuclear bomb. But hey, you stay in constant fear of your bogeyman who is forever 6 months away from that bomb. It's always 6 months away lol

 

Sanctions against another sovereign nation is an act of war. We have no right to do so, or to keep money belonging to them.

Of course they can.

 

Why do I get the feeling that Xoe Xiden is gonna sell us down the River.?

 

Just tragically horrible. I have been hearing experts of both sides saying we have them where we want them, we have them on a brink of collapse, the pressure is IMMENSE on them and Biden just wants to make nice again with them. The man has proven himself over and over and over at being totally incompetent when it comes to foreign affairs and national security and this is just a continuation of that. Obama thought he could bring peace to the world and end all conflict merely on the power of his personality and the world laughing behind their backs as they walked all over us while he gave those lips clinch nodding of his head to their actions. And now Biden thinks he can be so nice to the evil Iranian government and they will have an epiphany and all become nice people buddies.

 

Is that the test? "Is it legal"? As long as it is no illegal it's GREAT for the United States national security and that of the world.

 

Yes Iran was about on it's knees and the regime more and more in danger of being removed, losing credibility and support from the rest of the ME while other ME countries are signing peace agreements with the State of Israel something which the Obama administration and Leftist said could NEVER happen unless we gave in to the Palestinians and Iran. China was being challenged more than under any other President and Biden now wants to play nice with them and make them happy.

 

A. I was talking about the Iran/American relationship
B. Iran was not on it's knees, and they are headed into a more dangerous situation, siding with China or Russia, and developing nuclear weapons. The question becomes, do you work with them to try to get the things you want, like no nukes, or do you try to force them when they have other options? I doubt anyone knows the answer that will be apparent down the road, but I happen to agree with the "try to work with them crowd", as they are an independent nation, whether we like the way they are or not. History seems to support the working together method, punctuated by the occasional "conflict".

 

If this pleases my new lord and master, Xi Jinping, I am all for it. We should not do anything to upset our new China masters.

 

We've entered an era where presidents govern by EO's and bypass congress whenever possible unless forced to do so. Obama's agreement with Iran was just an agreement between him and Iran since he bypassed congress and never went the treaty route that the constitution states. No congressional approval.

Trump pulled us out via basically an EO, no need to get congress involved since they weren't in the first place. Trump didn't pull us out of a treaty, just pulled us out of an agreement between Obama and Iran, not him, not the U.S. Trump's additional sanctions were via EO, no congressional approval.

Biden's withdrawal of sanctions was perfectly legal, no vote needed since none was taken to impose them. By passing congress with these things means any future president with a stroke of a pen can reverse whatever the president preceded him implemented via EO.

Congress, whenever controlled by the party that has the presidency always tries to give that president more power and everything he wants even if it make congress an impotent body. Only when the president is of the other party does congress try to regain some of its former power it ceded to the presidency. Only then does congress squawk about the power of the presidency that itself have given to the presidency. Congress has only themselves to blame for this.

 

Obama started the EO madness and brought it to unprecedented levels. Another gift from the messiah.

 

Make your largest bet on this -- in about five years from now, Iran will confront the world with the fact that it is IN POSSESSION of both thermonuclear weapons, and, the ICBM's to deliver them with to any point in the world.

Hint: if ol' Joe kisses Tehran's Islamo-Nazi ass and goes back to the original Obama/Kerry "Agreement", all 'inspections' of any place in Iran that the Iranians unilaterally declare to be a "military site" will be FLATLY FORBIDDEN, by the agreement itself!

So, if you were a clever, enterprising Islamo-Nazi, where would YOU conduct your R&D and manufacture of hydrogen bombs...?

Another hint: By golly... it IS "rocket science"...!

 

Um, no one voted on trumps Act either.

 

The OP has factual intelligence?

 

Everyone should cancel news sources that lies.
Low factual intelligence rating of a news source means it's not reliable.

 

Four years ago, in an act that no one voted for and congress had no say in, Trump took us out of the international and hard-fought agreement on keeping Iran from building nuclear weapons. Iran was in full compliance with that agreement.

The money you claim was placation money was far from it. Decades ago, we froze their assets here and in most of the rest of the world. When the agreement was reached, those assets were unfrozen.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/obama-didnt-give-iran-150-billion-in-cash/

"The nuclear agreement included China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union, so Obama didn’t carry out any part of it on his own. The deal did lift some sanctions, which lifted a freeze on Iran’s assets that were held largely in foreign, not U.S., banks. And, to be clear, the money that was unfrozen belonged to Iran. It had only been made inaccessible by sanctions aimed at crippling the country’s nuclear program."

It is both amazing and scary that so few people understand what the deal did and what was at stake. That includes Donald Trump himself.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-trump-calls-400-million-payment-iran-ransom/

"In reality, the United States owed Iran $400 million as part of a longstanding dispute, and negotiators used that pending settlement as leverage to release the detained Americans. Experts said this kind of exchange is standard issue in U.S.-Iran relations over the past few decades.

The important but subtle nuance is this: While settling the $400 million helped ensure that the prisoners got home, it wasn’t an illicit payment. Iran, according to the claim adjudicators, had a legitimate right to the money."

The dispute, which the U.S. lost, was regarding $400 million the old Shah had paid us for weapons, but he was deposed and we never delivered the goods to the new regime. They requested that this $400 million be paid to them in cash ... not dollars, but Swiss francs, Euros, and a few other foreign currencies.

This entire thread is based on fake news, loudly shouted out by Donald Trump because he is an incompetent buffoon who didn't understand the deal any better than you do.

 

Their cut of what, exactly?

 

It. Was. Their. Effing. Money.

We gave them nothing out of taxpayer's pockets except the $400 million we owed from an old dispute. See #65.

 

In what way? I've heard nothing about this so-called "train wreck" so do please share.

 

Cancel culture? Like what the right is doing to every Republican who dares to say or do anything negative regarding Trump? Ask Liz Cheney about cancel culture, or Ben Sasse, or Mitt Romney. There's a cancel culture for ya.

 

You started this thread, now you want to change the subject? I wonder why . . .

 

Right back at you... why shy away from the 1 st. A ...& section 230?

 

And yet, there is no truth whatsoever in your OP.

 

Not one dime of taxpayer money went to Iran in this deal aside from what we actually owed them from a long-standing dispute. I urge you to begin a trip down Truth Avenue by reading the articles I linked in post #65.

 

Perhaps you should apply that adjective to yourself. You're the one who created this thread based entirely on Trump's fake news.

 

No, I am a proud member of 'pointing out blatant idiocy and relentlessly mocking it' culture. Deal with it.