In January 2019, Democrats will be able to impeach President Trump in the House. Will they?

No one is going to 'reach-across-the-aisle' for the next two years, and that is regrettable. We will now rapidly degenerate into a protracted 'trench-warfare' which will only accomplish that political blood-bath you mention.

And there we will be for two long, utterly miserable years -- paralyzed in a stinking blood-bath, while illegal aliens continue to pour into the country, finding welcome in "sanctuary cities", with the welfare 'spigots' opened fully once again to provide "services" to our own growing mass of indolent bust-outs who learned during the Obama years how easy it is to get something for nothing. And all of this going on while an overvalued stock market teeters between fantasy and reality, threatening the very stability of the REAL world economy, which is not good at all.

We'll have more 'investigations', charges, counter-charges, an impeachment of a president without any substantive evidence for doing so at all, and the anger will surely boil over into even more instances of mindless, angry, murderous violence.

And the only ones who will benefit from all this are our ADVERSARIES.... Oh, tidings of comfort and joy....

 

Trump is not going to be impeached, period.

No one on the GOP side of the world outside of the FBI knows what Mueller has.

 

They will talk about it, but I dont believe they will actually hold an impeachment vote anytime soon, maybe never To the Democrats, the value is in the "investigation" not in the actual impeachment. They will try to use the investigations and hearings from multiple House committees to try to swamp the White House. The intent will be to delay and block Trump from executing his agenda.

The secondary intent will be to use the "investigations" to manufacture fake crimes. Instead of having to go to an outside entity such as FusionGPS to manufacture information, they will be able to do it in their committee investigations.

And the Mueller investigations and others have turned up quite a bit of misbehavior from Hilary and the DNC and other Democrats, misbehavior that is backed by real evidence. Trump and the Republican Senate certainly has ammunition to hurt the Democrats - if the RINO Republicans have the guts to actually go to political war.

Also, how will the nation take a move to impeach? Far left extremists will love it. The conservatives will hate it and get energized. History shows independents will see through it as a political ploy and will not like it.

 

Does anyone doubt for one minute that Democrats will impeach Trump? Not me. They hate him even worse than they hated Reagan.

 

I suspect that Trump has anticipated the threat of a bogus impeachment process and is now positioning for taking some serious countermeasures. This could explain the timing of Jeff Sessions resignation in order to install someone better suited launch a counter strike. It gets more interesting by the day.

--pete--

 

I have gotten the impression that the extreme left have a huge amount of control over the Democratic Party so I do suspect that they will vote to Impeach President Trump...... but I am certain that their gambit will fail and will hurt them in a huge way in the 2020 election.

This could be their final stand to keep some pretty high level officials out of jail......... so they will likely do all that they can to stop the Draining of the Swamp that could not go to full steam ahead until the Supreme Court looked better than it did three months ago.

 

In January 2019, Democrats will be able to impeach President Trump in the House. Will they?
I voted no because I believe if Pelosi remains Speaker, she'll work to discourage impeachment. I agree with that. Impeachment will kill any positive effort on the part of Democrats to effect helpful legislation for the middle class & poor. Impeachment would suck all the energy from the House & put it into the spotlight on evening news. That would rile Trump's base and Republicans in general. Best to work with or around Trump until 2020, then defeat him in the election.

 

Hate to be a 'downer', Dennis, but I wouldn't give the American electorate too much credit if I were you. After all, this is a body of voters that elected Idiot Bush TWICE, and, elected Idiot Obama TWICE.

A country that can make decisions like that, back-to-back, twice, can probably do just about any other stupid thing imaginable....

Hell, it's so bad now that we've got people calling for the end of control of our borders while they endorse "sanctuary cities". They sit on their whiney asses and want the government to give them free EVERYTHING, but a growing number of them aren't even sure anymore what f*cking GENDER they are.... Meanwhile, many of them bitch about not being able to find a good job when the unemployment rate is now the lowest it has been since 1969! Not much hope for a country like the one we've turned into since about 2003, but it's all we've got... for right now.

And meanwhile, our opponents get stronger and more capable every year....

."So could WE have screwed them up any worse than they did themselves...?!"

 

Notice how it's only the Trumpflakes whimpering in incontinent terror about how Trump will be impeached? Trumpflakes have been trained to be that way. Anyone with a spine or gonads is suspected of being a liberal and ejected from the Trump cult.

Meanwhile, the Acosta thing has taught our enemies that Trump and every conservative will pout and hide behind a woman's skirts if merely asked a tough question. They'll be taking that knowledge to the negotiating table. Never before in American history has there been a bigger bunch of mewling pajama-bois than Trump and his wimp-cult.

 

It depends on Meuller's report and what if anything will come of the ethics investigations that will undoubtedly take place with a democratic congress.

Doing it for "personal partisan" reasons and not substantive evidence isn't gonna cut it.

 

If Mueller "drops absolutely incontrovertible evidence" that Donald Trump committed crimes then I hope the House does impeach him, and, that the Senate removes him from office.

Please do understand, Aleks, just because today's hyperliberal, radical Democrat Party makes many of us want to PUKE, it doesn't mean that we would willingly tolerate criminal behavior in Donald Trump or any other president. Please -- get THAT, even if you believe nothing else we in the Center-Right and Right stand for....

 

It's really nice to hear one of your politics say that. I really wish I could believe it of all of you but the fact that he already IS engaging in criminal behavior with full approval and has been about since he was elected makes me considerably skeptical. OTOH it can be argued that all Presidents do that and that the job would be difficult to impossible if they didn't; Trump is just more obvious about it

OK Fine, but we aren't here talking about arguments over hotel bills, we're talking about actual crimes and one or another Trumpista was recorded as saying. "I don't care if he grows a third dick (which would indicate he was actually a Posleen Alien and is probably scalping teenage girls to make a coat) I still support him"

And this is something that should also be noted. With a lot of us the problem isn't Trump but Trump's followers. People like Gavin Nunez who overthrew their actual duty to the American people to become Trump's puppet. Do people like this help him? I would argue strenuously they do not

 

I cannot disagree with your overall viewpoint, Aleks. Please understand that many of us on 'the Right' supported Trump because the alternative was just too dreadful! However 'criminal' Trump may or may not prove to be, I became convinced very early that Hillary would have been, hands down, the worst thing imaginable for this country -- especially after eight years of Obama, AND, eight years of Bush.

Nevertheless, no, Donald Trump was not my first choice (far from it), but everything on the liberal Democrat Left was even far, far worse, from the perspective of those of us on the Right.

Now, as the sun sets on 2018, I'll simply repeat what I've said before -- if Donald Trump is proven to have committed crimes, then I want him OUT as much as any of you on the Left do -- maybe more! Frankly, I've thought for some time that Mike Pence might be a preferable president anyway. I know that sounds like 'heresy', but it's true. Trump is a very successful businessman, yes... but I worked nearly all my adult life in large corporations, and although I do understand how a man like Trump behaves and acts, I know it is often not a particularly useful thing when seen in the spotlight of the highest political role in the world.

My "dream president" would be a synthesis of John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan, obviously an impossible creation.... I wish you and your generation better luck, although I fear the Left will only bring out more creatures like Corey Booker, Ocasio-Cortez, Kamala Harris, and yes, even Michelle Obama! With any luck, I'll be dead before the decay becomes total in this country....

 

Ahh, I hope not, don't you want to live forever?

My dream Chief Executive would be a combination of Ronald Reagan and Dwight Eisenhower, even as a shambling zombie it would still beat Trump

 

The really bizarre, unexpected thing for me is that, more and more, I find myself wishing that either Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping had been born an American citizen -- and then been elected president! Either of those gentlemen would have been at least an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE smarter than anything I've seen in Washington D. C. in thirty years....

 

Xi Jinping beats Newt Gingrich? and Ronald Reagan?

 

Ronald Reagan's last election was actually 34 years ago. I was careful to take that into account, but Xi Jinping is, IMHO, frighteningly intelligent, and, immensely powerful -- more powerful than Reagan was, especially during his last four years in office.

Gingrich? Came on strong in 1994, but ended up doing, uh, not-a-hell-of-a-lot-of-lasting-consequence.

Xi's 65 years old, but could easily rule China for another 10 years if he stays healthy. He will be a definitely FORCE to 'be reckoned with' for a long time to come. The same is true of Putin, who is now 66....

 

I nearly agree with you, especially about Putin. He's very much as if Bond had been American and became President. Actually he's a lot more like Jack Ryan, who DID become President, but I hate when reality and fiction seem to collide.

 

In January 2019, Democrats will be able to impeach President Trump in the House. Will they?

Although I voted yes there is a stipulation...I doubt it will happen immediately. The initial step will probably begin at that point when Mueller releases his report to the house, which will not now bury it. This will be released to the public strategically and in steps to counter the "Fake News" cry of the TrumpHumping masses and once the evidence becomes undeniable even to them, impeachment will begin. I admit this scenario is somewhat wishful thinking and attributes more intellect to the players than is likely due....but one can dream.

 

The answer is NOT a BINARY CHOICE!

If the Mueller investigation provides incontrovertible evidence of actual crimes such as money laundering then the House would be remiss to not file impeachment charges on that evidence. The GOP controlled Senate would then be on the hook to either abide by their Oath to UPHOLD the Constitution. Their FAILURE to do so would subsequently harm them in 2020. However the GOP would calculate the harm that impeaching your BLOTUS would mean as far as losing support from his sycophantic base. That call would be up to the GOP but either way it would be a Lose-Lose situation for them. This call does have at least one GOP upside that needs to be mentioned. Removing the BLOTUS makes Pence the INCUMBENT for 2020 with the possibility of him serving for up to 10 years in the Oval office. The political math involved regarding maintaining the evangelical part of the base and only alienating the white nationalists will play a role as to which choice is made.

If the evidence from the Mueller investigation either exonerates or is insufficient to indict your BLOTUS then the House would be foolish to pursue impeachment. The Dem House leadership is NOT foolish and won't make that mistake IMO.

There is another scenario that the obtuseness of the dearth of choices ignores. If there is sufficient evidence to impeach the BLOTUS but the Dem House leadership strikes a deal with the BLOTUS to the effect that he does exactly what they ask without question and in turn the Dems arrange for his criminal penalties to be reduced to fines in exchange for guilty pleas. This avoids the circus of impeachment and grandstanding and shifts the balance of power in the Dem's favor.

 

Hi, Te. I was merely polling the forum members to see if they think that the House will impeach Trump. Pretty clear cut... nothing 'labyrinthine' about it....

You can speculate about what means what, and what (in your exalted opinion) necessarily entails what. Nevertheless, the mechanics of the impeachment-and-removal process are relatively simple and straightforward....

As I have indicated, there's no doubt whatever in my mind that if there's even the slightest pretext for doing so, the Democrats in the House won't 'let their shirttails hit their ass' before they take up impeachment proceedings against Trump. And you can bet your last "Hillary for President" campaign button that Trump won't allow these radical Democrats to have a free reign to wreck this country even more than they did under "Messiah" Obama in return for going 'easy' on him.... Besides, this Democrat rat-pack has been salivating for Trump's impeachment for something (anything) since the morning after the night that Hillary lost the election....

I just wanted to see how many of us thinks what... thus, this poll thread. And there's certainly no doubt about how YOU feel about things, Te....

 

** First, my apology for being off the thread topic. **

If you haven't read it already, Aleks, I highly recommend Chris Hutchins book, "Putin", to anyone who wants to study this man from the perspective of an insightful, fact-based overview: https://www.amazon.com/Putin-Chris-...42557145&sr=8-1&keywords=putin+chris+hutchins

What I REALLY want to find next is an equally good biography of Xi Jinping. If anyone could recommend one that is free of propaganda-slants and speculative nonsense, I'd love to know what it might be!

 

When did that ever stop them?

 

I don't know if they will or if they won't.

What i do know is it would be a good way to avoid dealing with real issues and at the same time pander to their base.

 

Indeed, that is exactly what the GOP will do: pander to its base.