No such thing as Gun Control. Let me explain. Cars are also not controlled, the reason being, cars and guns don't move on their own, they don't cause injury on their own. So you do two things, you control people through checks/training/exams etc.. and you regulate the features of cars, guns, food hygiene etc... So the person is controlled so you need car insurance, driving lessons, a test then licence to drive and the features of the vehicle are regulated to make them as safe as possible, and the car to have an MOT (UK). Now that is common sense, WE ALL know that. That works with cars, guns, knives, food hygiene and so on and so on. But to erase this common sense from guns, just scream, "2nd Amendment" l, then hope you deflected the gun argument. I don't fall for that. So if you have nothing of concern on your police, medical, and driving record, and you have the gun safe to lock them away when not in use, and you know that public places are not a place to use guns, then there's no issue in you obtaining a gun licence. The penalities are severe if you can't comply with these basics
You probably never read Common Sense Here's a couple paragraphs- "Of Monarchy and Hereditary Succession MANKIND being originally equals in the order of creation, the equality could only be destroyed by some subsequent circumstance: the distinctions of rich and poor may in a great measure be accounted for, and that without having recourse to the harsh ill-sounding names of oppression and avarice. Oppression is often the CONSEQUENCE, but seldom or never the MEANS of riches; and tho' avarice will preserve a man from being necessitously poor, it generally makes him too timorous to be wealthy. But there is another and great distinction for which no truly natural or religious reason can be assigned, and that is the distinction of men into KINGS and SUBJECTS. Male and female are the distinctions of nature, good and bad the distinctions of Heaven; but how a race of men came into the world so exalted above the rest, and distinguished like some new species, is worth inquiring into, and whether they are the means of happiness or of misery to mankind." - https://www.ushistory.org/Paine/commonsense/sense3.htm I highly recommend you click on the link and read the rest of it. The way you would have it makes people unequal, unless you could stuff all the guns back into Pandora's Box then lock it and bury the key. But of course nobody can do that.
The short of it is that he wants to change the section heading from "Gun Control" to "Common Sense" Which would be great because then we could discuss Paine's pamphlet that sparked off The American Revolution. Funny thing about the American Revolution- it never ended and as such arms are needed for defense. Sure we are in a cease-fire. But we are still at war.
No, the forum isn't improperly named. Additionally: Spellcheck is part of the system. Please for the love of God use it. Further: None of us American gun owners give a flying **** what ANY foreign person from ANY place thinks about our laws. Not one of us. Please: Spare us this asinine bullshit.
They're just pissed off because they allowed their guns to be taken away and now they want ours to be taken too. But like you said we really don't give a damn what they think about our rights.
Common sense aint so common. We don't 'regulate' vehicles built or restored at home and driven on private property, food grown in backyard gardens, knives made out in the garage. Yet a lot of folks think we need to do that with guns. Maybe you regulate what people do at home in the UK, but that's a new one here in the US. With the exception of drugs, of course, which I consider our 'war' against to be and have been great folly- to society, the economy and civil rights. Not being allowed to grow a plant at home was always going to lead to not being allowed to build a gun at home, will lead to not being able to grow a tomato or sharpen a blade without a certification, permitting and regular inspections. No one wants that. But that is where we're going. I don't consider it common sense to expect the govt to protect us from all things. Foreign armies, sure. Manmade disasters, ya. A minimal amount of order and safety enough for people to be able to travel and engage in commerce so the economy doesnt collapse, arguably. But no one can protect me in my home or walking around walmart or hiking in the woods better than I can, and I find the suggestion that any entity other than me be delegated that task to be insulting, not only because I don't need it, but because I know any attempt is going to be woefully insufficient if and when something actually happens. 'Common sense' used to be- only you can prevent yourself from being injured or killed. Now people seem to think they have a right to not have to behave in a safe manner, be aware of their surroundings, think before they act or prepare for the unexpected. Thus we get men with rifles and body armor punishing people for the crime of trying to drink fresh milk straight from the cow.
Now come on let's be reasonable here... Those raw milk drinkers are a great danger to society. I'm like you. I only want the government to do its job within reason. I don't want them to keep me "safe" from every little risk in life because that's how you wake up in a police state. It's also how you get limited to lame ass fireworks on the 4th of July. Bring back the cherry bombs and the real m80s. If people blow their hand off I bet they won't do it again !
That's because your opinion of the rights of people in a different country really doesn't amount to any substance. We don't try to tell you what you should do with your rights.
You mean you choose to ignore perfectly sound arguments against the restrictions you seek because you know you cannot argue against them. We accept your concession.
She refuses to accept any argument against her favored firearms restrictions that involves reference to the right to keep and bear arms and the constitution. Because she knows she has no sound response to same. Speaks for itself.
Is there a climate change forum heading? Let's change that to "Climate Contol", that'd be way more accurate!
