Iowa Mennonites sue Civil Rights comm. over their religion vs homosexual mandate

http://www.becketfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Odgaard-Complaint.pdf

perhaps you recall the case?

This is going to get interesting because we now will see if rights and liberties are equal for all or if homosexuals are given preferential treatment.

 

People with the homosexual birth defect will get preferential treatment.

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1. We know how this is going to end. You can't discriminate against someone just because you feel like it goes against your beliefs.

2. Ironic. They say they invite everyone in but at the same time say they will discriminate against homosexuals.

 

interesting

the homosexuals in this story want to put their sexual lifestyle ahead of the religious beliefs of that couple

I'm stymied that you can't see that

you feel putting how one has sex ahead of ones religion would be the correct thing

 

They run a public business, commercial business.

The marriages are CIVIL ceremonies, not religious ones.

If they want the marriages to conform to their religion, they can simply make the marriages a Mennonite religious ceremony and refuse to marry anyone they believe doesn't qualify.

Since they do CIVIL weddings, they need to marry anyone who qualifies under CIVIL marriage rules.

 

This is their "lunch counter" moment the queer militants have waited for. They'll win. But they won't stop until every Christian bows at the altar of leather chaps and cockrings. Persecution is near.

 

Thanks for the angry white guy point of view.

LOL

 

Seriously- why do you do this again?

Post the link but no content?

This is the couple who host weddings at their private wedding facility, and who refused to allow a same sex couple to be married there.

It is an interesting case and I invite people to read the suit- basically they say that their tenants forbid them from participating in a wedding that is not between a man and a woman.

I wonder if they refuse to allow a divorced man or woman to be married in their chapel?

Anyway- the wonderful thing is that we have courts to judge such things.

Personally, I think that business's should not be allowed to discriminate based upon race, religion, gender or sexual persuasion, regardless of the owners religious beliefs.

 

we hear you

gay sex trumps religion

that is the push right now

 

My question is whether this is a false flag situation? Is this the only marriage venue in the city of Grimes, or did this couple only choose to get married there because of the owner's religious belief?

 

Oh wait- I missed the part in the law suit where the mennonites refused to have gay sex.

Personally I don't think sex of any kind should 'trump' religion- I mean I don't care how much you want to screw in a church that doesn't mean that you can have straight sex or gay sex in a church.

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There are other venues. Read the lawsuit. It might have been an action just to challenge this, which in general I am not for.

But I would feel the same if the couple refused to let someone get married at their business because the couple was Jewish.

 

If its a priate establishment its their right to serve anyone they please. its not government run or funded, and obviously the business pays their taxes.

If a gay couple got a church or banquet hall that they own and decided only gay marriages could take place there then thats their choice.

why is everyone so worried about forcing others to cater to them? if they dont want to cater to you take your money to someone who will appreciate it instead of trying to force them into serving you.

 

Well except- that is not how the law actually reads.

 

This gay couple is like Rosa Parks to these militant homos. They know exactly what they're doing.

 

it seems like every month there is a new wanna be Rosa Parks. its honestly a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing insult to the lady who actually had a damned spine.

 

As long as gays are no different than blacks; these people are victims of a heinous crime and should be punished. They wouldn't refuse a black couple, would they? No, because they know better. The civil rights division of the FBI would be knocking their door down. Well, guess what? The same is coming for bigots like these that don't let homos do whatever they want on someone else's private property. I swear they'll keep suing until the Christian churches are forced sponsors their parades and hosts their weddings.

 

lol honestly dont sound too far off. these days it seems like equality is more than equal.

 

Interesting- you compare them to Rosa Park.

 

Yes, it's interesting. Interesting how people have bought this big fat lie that homosexuality is completely innate, like skin color. And it's interesting how people want to punish anyone that doesn't believe the lie. Interesting.

 

What lie? How is that a lie? It may be not be true, but you can't prove it is false, therefore there couldn't be a lie- could there?

Whether or not something is innate is really irrelevant- just as this couple could sue someone if they refused to let them get married in some other private facility BECAUSE they are Mennonites- which is a personal choice- a homosexual couple can sue them for refusing to provide a service to them.

 

Ok, then.

 

You are wrong.

This business is NOT a church - it is a commercial public business doing civil weddings, along with a dozen other business pursuits.

NO ONE is suing any churches or religious ceremonies. NO ONE is "forcing" Christian churches to sponsor parades or host weddings. And if anyone DID sue a Christian church for what you indicate, the lawsuit would be tossed out of court on the face of it. NO laws are requiring churches to perform weddings they don't want to do.

 

Yes, how dare they ask for equal rights. It's a real shame that they can't get married because someone doesn't like them because of who they love.

 

then if they were refused because they wanted to play laser tag inside then would you be just as outraged. Look, it's not an insult to you when I say the only difference is how you have sex. It's not a race or species. So, since it's just a choice, it does not fall as a right any more than if a heterosexual was denied

 

You're welcome.

There is so much anti white, anti Christian, anti male brainwashing in our society that the lib victims of that propaganda just take it for granted.

Women and minorities can make babu lie contributions on the margin, but the fact is that as white Christian males go so goes America.