Is Abbott a Phony

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  1. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are obvious mixed feelings about Abbotts true character but one would suspect that some people turn a blind eye due to the credibility of their persuasion and forgetting about morality! How about we make a list of all Tony's public misdemeanors and see whether there is legitimate concern regarding his prime ministerialness and whether he is made of the right substance to represent the Australian people!

    In my mind abbott is a deceiving, lying, conniving, nasty political figure who also has an ego problem in the same class as Warwick capper!

    Once the list is close to being exhausted I will endeavour to neatly gather all points into one post.

    It's not a flamebait but an attempt to put this particular issue into perspective whichever way it pans out.

    I would appreciate that one post would be dedicated at a time to one of Abbotts lies or deceptions for clarities sake.
     
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    TV this could be interesting if it remains a fair minded debate, which I doubt it will. Nonetheless lets push forward. I recommend to make things fair respondents may also refute the claim without bias ( trying to control my sarcastic giggle ) and also find fault in his main adversary, the lovely and well rounded, Julia Gillard. This way we will be able to see if Big Ears is worthy of the job, or if the Ginger Whinger has been an adequate PM.

    I would like to say fair fight all, but something tells me this thread may descend into utter disgrace !
     
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    "Is this the man who wrrreckked the buffet in the Harrow Club this mornin...???"
     
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    My mind - well, I am voting ABBA - Anybody But Bloody Abbot and one of the main things is that he is a classic "career politician" in other words - could not lie straight in bed.

    Now apart from the fact he could not tell climate science from a piece of string nailed ot a board - while health minister he allowed his own personal opinions to affect millions of women

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/10/05/tables-turn-on-stumblebum-abbott-as-labor-cuts-its-error-rate/

    http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=19455
     
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    So opinion and blogs...but no fact...yep sounds like a circle jerk thread for ALP and leftards
     
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    Since when did prejudice, sexism, or bigotry require facts, to reach an emotional conclusion?
     
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    Hey, as long as everyone stays on topic we might get somewhere! But you've just tried to incited mutiny on the thread!! Somebody can start another thread about Julia. In my eyes she has done no wrong, so there is nothing negative to say about her from my perspective? Hmmm, okay maybe some things, like.............................. ..see, I can't think of anything!!!
     
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    Yep, if he has Chinese for breakfast, it was probably him???
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyone who twists their own religious dogma, has a deception problem!
     
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    This thread is light on fact and heavy on low IQ ALP propaganda
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing has been raised yet, you've jumped the gun! Now Conservative bullsh!t doesn't count as fact, as long as we are clear on that!
     
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    thanks for agreeing with my post...
    Now lets talk about "phony" shall we
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMVc0IbtyAQ
    yep the ALP is phony and full of LIES
     
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    thanks for agreeing with my post...
    Now lets talk about "phony" shall we
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMVc0IbtyAQ
    yep the ALP is phony and full of LIES
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She didnt purposely mislead, there were changing circumstances. In any instance a fixed price period was an economic recommendation and only temporary while business certainty was established. What did Abbott say again.....ah thanks for reminding us of this one......The following clip is a demonstration of One of Abbotts lies! Ya gotta laugh!
    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74&desktop_uri=/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74
     
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    Gillard`s carbon tax isn`t "a simple tax", it`s a convoluted abortion, a dud fest of the lowest order. The floors and faults of the great "carbon tax swindle" have been progressively manifesting themselves ever since it`s introduction. At last count to my knowledge, there had been eight ammendments to the ALP carbon tax since it`s introduction, but this is only to be expected from people who have never had to do anything in their lives.

    Admittedly, Abbott has had no need to try too hard in his position of leader of the opposition, due to the sleazy, incompetent nature of the present Federal Government. When we see such weak and desperate arguments as the one you put forward, TV, it only assists Abbott`s cause. If you can`t pin anything real on Abbott, and are forced to desperate distortion, it only makes you look silly, not Abbott.

    Don`t forget TV, most of broader Australia aren`t blindfolded by fanaticism, or bigotry. Those of us who posess the ability to think for ourselves, have seen Gillard lie time and time again. We have seen the dirty and desperate attempts to discredit the opposition. We have seen the appeal to feminist sexism, to condemn Abbott for thought crimes that have an emotional knee jerk reaction, in that sector.

    This "Government" couldn`t organise a chook raffle, we know it, they know it. They cry foul when the opposition oppose their "policys", and react with gutter tactics, personal attack, more lies and deception.
     
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    Shhhhhhhh That's because it isn't a tax, there is no carbon tax shhhhhh Abbott tells fibs, there is no carbon tax .... It's an ETS, that's why it's complicated, and because it's complicated, conservatives can't comprehend it.
     
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    The real issue is, that Abbotts, Bishop, Howard are not liberal, but strong nationalists, with tendencies towards Hitler. Just pure bad......
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    another incoherent spray! aussie, you lost credility long ago. It is hard trying to decipher through your network of bullshlt. Labor did this labor did that. Yes they did do lots, such as the NBN, BERS, national roads investment, carbon pricing.....etc etc. The more one does the more others will complain. Howard did nothing, but it took voters ten years to notice that!
     
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    One guess who is looking like an extermist here cats.
     
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    Howard did nothing? TV, you still haven`t given us anything substantial against Abbott.
     
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    Exactly, and Abbott will do nothing either. Good post aussie.
     
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    I think he presents himself pretty accurately. But if in some bizarre twist, he doesn't turn out to be a crazy religious idiot who jumps on every political bandwagon passing by, and he actually has a collection of visionary and progressive reforms, is a secret proponent of social justice, and a highly competent leader, well then we could admit that he totally fooled us all.
     
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