Is God Making a Comeback?

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    ...Who Killed God?
    If God is making a comeback, where has He been all this time? Well, literally speaking, He didn’t go anywhere. He’s just been banished from the landscape of respectable “scientific” discourse.

    But if one takes the long view of history, this dramatic banishment happened very recently indeed. It wasn’t so long ago that even notorious freethinkers like Voltaire took God’s existence as a matter of course. But with the rise of methodological naturalism and the wide acceptance of naturalistic frameworks like Darwinism, a new consensus gradually formed that God had been put out of a job.

    Theism became a fringe view, something “serious” academics didn’t entertain in public if they wanted to be “respectable.” If the word “God” pops up in a physics book, like Stephen Hawking’s Brief History of Time, it’s understood to be metaphorical, a place-holder word for the ultimate all-explaining mathematical principle.

    What happened? The status game changed. “We’ve become very guild-oriented in science now,” Meyer says, “where only people within the particular guild are allowed to think about particular problems. And … within those insular guilds, you can develop a group-think based on certain sets of presuppositions that may or may not need to be challenged, but sometimes are destructive of real progress and understanding things.”

    With Return of the God Hypothesis, Meyer wants to issue just such a challenge. Poking at presuppositions across the sciences, he builds and expands on his arguments for intelligent design as developed in Signature in the Cell and Darwin’s Doubt, but with a key difference: He now openly puts the name “God” to the designer...





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    Its great to see a God comeback in our country and culture. For too long science has been trying to relegate God and Christians to the sidelines. They even try to marginalize belief and believers as proponents of “pseudoscience”. The intolerance of the so called science consensus know no bounds. They list evangelical Christian sites as pseudoscience or conspiracy and rate as “questionable” such places that believe in creation, the great flood, and even angels.
     
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    It’s great to see a revival of interest in God, of expressions of faith renewed, and a remembrance of the fact that our nation was founded by divine Providence and that the founders knew our inalienable rights come from a creator who sees us as created equals. Thus our God given rights.
     
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    Fastest growing faith - Muslims. I can't see that as great thing.
    Fastest growing Christian faith in US - Mormons. Most Christians don't even consider Mormons as "real" Christians. Mormons
    were persecuted in early US society.

    Is what it is.
     
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    Evangelical Christians as a whole are the fastest growing subgroup of Christianity. Muslims are no longer the fastest growing on earth as they are hemorrhaging believers even in the nations they dominate.
     
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    No one denies that mainline Protestant denominations are wilting away. The drop in their numbers and the increase in “nones’ are a good match and in many cases present nones are former liberal mainline Protestants or former pro choice Catholics
     
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    :roflol:

    IRONIC that they falsely accuse scientists of doing EXACTLY what religion does ALL the time.

    Theists are PROHIBITED from challenging their IMAGINARY deity and essentially FORCED into a GROUP-BELIEF scenario where no is allowed to ask questions that would UNDERMINE the FALLACIOUS superstitions upon which their Stone Age beliefs in an IMAGINARY deity originated.

    Sad!

    Little wonder that they are LOSING membership at UNPRECEDENTED rates nowadays.

    :roflol:
     
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    There is ZERO Freedom of Religion from you IMAGINARY deity!

    There is ZERO Freedom of Speech from you IMAGINARY deity!

    There is ZERO Right to Vote from you IMAGINARY deity!

    There is ZERO Freedom from Cruel and Unusual Punishment from you IMAGINARY deity!

    Why did the Founding Fathers have to ESTABLISH these RIGHTS in the SECULAR Constitution?

    Was it because there are ZERO rights "given" by your IMAGINARY deity?
     
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    The Perimeter of Ignorance
    By Neil deGrasse Tyson
    Natural History Magazine
    November 2005

    A boundary where scientists face a choice: invoke a deity or continue the quest for knowledge.

    https://www.haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/essays/2005-11-the-perimeter-of-ignorance.php
     
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    Science has never tried to relegate God and Christians to the sidelines, it simply seeks the best answers to Scientific questions using the scientific method. It is not the fault of science that god does not figure in explanations. I have asked over and over for the Theory of Creation from religious people and they have never yet provided a coherent answer, will you be the first?
     
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    Our founding fathers knew that we have a creator and that He created us all as equal in His sight. He brought our exceptional nation into being by His divine Providence. He is the source of our inalienable God given human rights. They knew that our government would only work as long as we are a moral, just, and upright people.
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

    Thousands of YEARS of OPPRESSION under YOUR imaginary deity was REJECTED by the Founding Fathers so trying to STEAL the CREDIT from them is just what RELIGIONS do because they are INCAPABLE of EVOLVING.

    Our Founding Fathers EMBRACED science while EXCLUDING religion from our SECULAR government of We the People.

    Facts matter!
     
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    Too bad that you have no facts on your side of this discussion.
     
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    DENIAL of DOCUMENTED historical FACTS on your part does NOT alter them one iota!

    Sad!
     
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    This is what I am seeing. A lot of people believe in a higher power, but they also believe that no one organized religion is "the" religion, and view organized religion as a way to control people.
     
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    Which is why God and the Founding Fathers applauded when The Donald was run out of office ...

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    Actually, more and more Christians do see members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as Christians. They recognized the need of the "Mormons" to assist in the strength of personal freedoms to believe freely in their faiths. With this, "Christians" recognize more that the Church teaches and preaches Christ. There are obvious differences but most realize that Christ is within the members. But, you are moving the goal posts, again. What does this have to do with whether people are finding God again?

    As we lose our God-given rights, we lose our moral agency to choose good or evil, as government leaders choose for us. Or, force us to not be able to choose as they attempt to build their utopian world. Where opposites don't exist. There is no male or female, success or failure, pleasure or pain, adventure or idleness, wealth or poverty, life or death... What is lost in most atheists is that they don't understand why God is so absent in the world. It's really not a question in reality. God is quite active in our world. There are billions of people who believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is most involved in the world testifying of the Godhead, being the conduit between Father and Son and the people who call upon then every day. Answering prayers with a yes or no each time for the benefit of each individual.

    If the Godhead were to be visible as atheists, agnostics, scientists demand, then no one would have the moral agency to choose good or evil. To choose to be fruitful and adventurous. To seek better lives and help lift other out of poverty. It would be done all for us. Just like the wicked Communist governments rule with tyranny all trying to control the way everyone will think, act and behave. I'm not interested in that world. Are you? Because that's where science is heading with the leftist thinking people are using science to take us to their utopia.
     
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    This is a fascinating claim, since your nation was literally built on slavery.
     
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    God is in everyone whether they know it or not. I've met atheists who were the most kind and caring people in the world, and I've met people claiming to be "religious" who were twisted ****s. And vice versa. I've met religious people who might as well be saints, and atheists who were terrible. I'm not sure religion has anything to do with it. It all depends where people are on their spiritual journey, what lessons their souls have learned in past lives and what they are here to learn and experience in this incarnation. In the end, we all return to god. So I don't see people joining or not joining churches as a bad or good thing. People will not stop being good people without a church.
     
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    This is also fascinating, given the centuries of church rule demanding you think as they do and punishing you as a heretic or blasphemer if you do not. People were even put to death over this. How soon we forget eh?
     
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