Is #metoo over now that noone cares about Tara Reid?

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    Not at all....I believed Tera
     
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    The claim of confidentiality ended when Biden requested, in writing, that the complaint be released if it or any complaint exists and she made claims as to the contents.
     
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    I believe her original complaint of the shoulder rubbing and hair twirling, he is definitely a touchy feely guy. I also believe her when she said it made he uncomfortable. Many people don't like that. I do have trouble taking her word now for the expanded version because she didn't even hint at it a month ago. Trump has made a cynic out of me.
     
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    It sets a precedent because there could be demands that all senators and congressman do the same thing. The flood gates would open.
     
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    What is the point of taking the complaints then? This isn't Viet Nam and a domino effect will occur, if other Senators request it fine, why not if the accusers agree too? Perhaps an accuser could reject the idea because they've moved on and have no wish to be in the circus. There is no need for confidentiality when both parties accept.
    As it stands an accuser could make claims that don't exist of rape and bestiality with incest and pedophilia with complete immunity by your system.
     
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    #Metoo took a hit with this one but like Jason in the Halloween movies, it will come roaring back when those who want to be able to abuse this kind of power want to do so again. A more serious and challenging question is of appropriate responses. Honestly, if Kavanaugh horsed around with an unwilling Ford when he was a minor and has, for the sake of argument, had an unblemished and honorable record since then, why was this ever a national issue in the first place? Biden is accused of digital rape. What is an even handed response? 3 lashes and send him on his way?
     
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    I suspect good old Joe knew the senate secretary would never release such a complaint. Release one and they all become fair game. Why don't you just admit that the democrats have been caught up by their own rhetoric. Believe the woman no matter how long ago or how unlikely the claim might be?

    It is not my system. It is reality. After twenty seven years, it is nearly impossible to prove or disprove anything. Good people get ruined or on the other hand terrible crimes go unpunished.
     
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    All of a sudden you're a cynic when it comes to sexual assault accusations. Isn't that a convenient change of heart?

    This is now, and that was then.
     
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    And there's an inconsistency there someplace?
     
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    Yeah, you folks got worked up over a woman who went in front of congress with a intentionally vague accusation, and glaring inconsistencies in her story. Any reasonable person would have heard the alarm bells going off over Blasey Ford’s testimony. But you people didn’t care, because all that mattered was a Supreme Court seat.
    So, you’re fooling nobody with the whole “facts suddenly matter” shtick.
     
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    "It 's not so much that maybe her life had been threatened but it's a rare teen that would come forward and accuse a classmate. Heck accusing anyone carried a great many risks for the girls."

    This is a young woman accusing a US senator.
     
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    The sympathy you had for accusers back in 2018 seems to have conveniently dried up, and been replaced by "cynicism".

    Because Trump, right?
     
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    Democrats force out those that get caught, remember Al Frankin? Republicans elect them.
    The bottom line is that if such a complaint exists it is folly to claim that the Senate is just protecting the innocent when both parties want it exposed. Investigation is a good thing, no Democrat I've heard says to silence her but rather investigate if there is any merit. The only ones saying otherwise are Republicans which use the doubt as a weapon.
     
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    The video of Frankin likely had a lot to do with it along with much more recent events. Pretty hard to deny a video.
     
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    I have said nothing about her coming forward after 27 years. I do have problems with someone changing their story from one of discomfort to rape over a month. That requires more than "she said" especially since she brought up the apparent call to Larry King where her mother said she didn't go public out of respect. Again, she needs to explain that because I've never heard of a rape victim use respect as an emotion towards their rapist. Perhaps respect towards a person who makes you personally uncomfortable over a lack of respecting space but never a rapist.
     
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    This was a much respected US senator. Not some teen ager with raging hormones.
     
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    Photo, video, whatever. Did he touch her, no. Was he disrespectful, absolutely and that's why he got hounded out.
    Is their like evidence of Trump? There are books filled with cases.
     
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    There was some dispute about whether he touched her or not. However, it showed a pattern of disrespect on camera and then went downhill from there.
     
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    Absolutely true; because nobody compartmentalizes and rationalizes their own double-standards activities like political leftists. The key to it being their nearly across the board control of media outlets. Since the professional propagandists always end up spinning and covering for the political benefit of the DNC -- as opposed to specific leftist politicians and celebrities -- ultimately what the DNC wants in regards to a specific accusation is what the MSM is going to embrace.
     
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    Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd? A point?
     
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    Do I really have to explain it? A US Senator with nearly unlimited power over the woman. The difference in power is almost beyond comprehension.
     
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    Unfortunately, in the absence of good character, some will go to any length to protect their own interests, including the dismissal of the same standards of justice they demanded were universal yesterday. In my opinio0n, they wind up not protecting their interests, but proving themselves devoid of character.

    The worst thing about this to me isn't just the impact of the fairness to women or due process or justice- it's the confirming of the level of corruption in our system that places all these things at risk. That is a universal threat that can harm all of us.
     
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    No. It appears we’re confusing records.
    Her alleged complaint would be contained in her personnel records housed in the Senate records in the National Archives.

    Biden’s request for release was turned down because there are laws protecting personnel records (privacy). At best, Ms. Reade can attempt to access the file.

    Although she doesn’t appear to be interested. She’s seeking Biden’s records housed at the University of Delaware. The records that contain his deliberations with the President and Foreign leaders for his time as VP, and Senate deliberations for time as Senator.

    Biden’s rejected that request for an obvious reason those records have absolutely nothing to do with her complaint.

    She’s stated that the complaint she allegedly filed was for Harassment and not her current allegation.

    I really don’t know where they can go from here. There isn’t anything Biden can do other than what he’s done. I suppose Ms. Reade can attempt to access her personnel file. At least we’d know if a complaint was actually filed which would give us some clarity and direction on how to proceed.




     
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    then why have folks been fired and kicked out of school and prosecuted with no proof?
     
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    You will have to ask the people who did it.
     

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