Is PF overrun with Racists?

I got pwned in the same way you'd get pwned if I'd make a strawman out of what you said and call you a fool for it. I gave those as examples, food for thought. And while women in general are not "built" for war as men are, both physically and psychologically, there are many women who are much better than some men, and since we're using firearms nowadays the natural strength which men are born with is somewhat negated. I believe in a voluntary army that doesn't care about sex, only merit. Altough, since I would want my country to survive in case of a war I'd support a draft in the most dire situations.

 

And I was not talking about the US either. I only mentioned the US in the aspect that it (like every other country I am aware of) only has a draft for citizens. Non-citizens are never eligable to be drafted (although they can enlist).

And sorry, but there are always parts of the population that are exempted. The elderly, the young, criminals, physically and mentally disabled, the list just goes on and on. To even try and pretend otherwise is idiotic.

And I am always fascinated when civilians talk about how serving in the military is unfair in one way or another. Is there a draft? If there is not, then what does it matter to you? Are you in the military yourself? Have you ever served?

Personally, I think there is something said for a Militaristic Meritocracy. The only demand made of most people (civilians, sheep) is that they pay their taxes and not break to many laws. Nobody expects to much of sheep, and that is how most sheep actually like it. Sure, they get fleeced every year, but they simply make sheep noises because they believe it is best for them as well. And eventually they are served up as a nice dinner for somebody, but that is the role of the sheep.

Once in a great while some sheep will almost wake up, and start to wonder if there is more to life then being a sheep. Some of them actually become goats, but most just return to being sheep again.

 

Robert Heinlein is clapping in heaven.

 

The forum isn't overrun with racists per se, but it is overrun with conspiracy theorists.

 

There is a plethora of both on this forum.

 

Either I don't understand your post or most of it is irrelevant but I will add this: Yes, but those groups have good reason; women do not.

 

If you notice, I do not say that I think it is a viable form of government, just that it has something going for it is all. I think for a nation along the size of a city-state, it might actually be a viable form of ensuring that those who get franchise are only those who actually participate in it's survival. But for anything much bigger, I think it likely would not work, and become a form of rigid class system.

It is a nice concept though. Of course, Communism is also a nice concept. However when it is turned into reality, then it becomes a nightmare.

You have to realize that just because I say something is possible or might have good things, that does not nessicarily mean that I actually endorse it. Hitler did a lot of great things for his nation and the world. That does not mean that I support him or his policies, or think of him as anything other then a homicidal nutcase.

And all to often, the two of them go together.

If you ask 98% of Anti-Semites, everything is the fault of the Jews. Stock market, class warfare, Communism, flouride in the water, the Euro, money, AIDS, halitosis, Cosa Nostra, moon landings, and athletes foot. It all somehow blends together into this giant pie where everything is a conspiracy to put the Jews on top of everything else, and the "honest white men" forced to live on the bottom.

 

I've always thought that was funny, especially that they think both communism and capitalism is part of the jewish conspiracy!

 

Well it gets even better- many call themselves Christians and then try to explain how Jesus was not Jewish....before they go into their usual rant about how the Jews are behind everything from locusts to solar flares.

 

Aye .... right enough, the draft does exclude certain types..... but obviously metal disability is an advantage, sail straight in!

What..... I quote "Personally, I think there is something said for a Militaristic Meritocracy", that may be okay for those with limited intelligence or if your American, the rest of the world doesn't need more American "democracy"! That would kill more that those being killed now!

We can see the stupidity and nonsense of your argument even if you can't!

Regards
Highlander

 

And I suggest you go up 3 posts above your own, and not try to read to much into what I had said.

And you did quote me correctly, however you seem to have totally failed to understand what was actually said. Notice I did say "something said for", I did not say "we should have", "I believe in a", or any other form of endorsement for that to actually be used as a form of government. Just that the concept did have some advantages to it.

Hey, mandatory sentencing for all crimes also has something to be said for it, but does that mean that I feel it should be done? Really does not matter, since I have not given any opinion for or against, just stating a generalization.

 

According to 98% of "Anti-Semites", everything is the fault of the Jews?

That's a very interesting statistic.

Can you explain a little more with some evidence and a definition of "Anti-Semite"?

 

Aye I agree, everything is to be interpreted as the viewer finds!

But isn't it very interesting how some seem to view items by what they are told rather and research the facts for themselves?

http://www.wariscrime.com/2012/08/08/video/the-13-most-evil-us-government-human-experiments/

This is disgusing and abhorrent, but its your government.... again!

And you wish to trust them...... American democracy........I think not!

Criminal courts yes, government, never!

Regards
Highlander

 

Are there more liberals than there should be? Are there more unborn baby killers than there should be?
Are there more people who want to take away the freedom of speech than there should be?
Do the "racists" include those that support affirmative action and racial "diversity" quotas in the liberal universities?

What's interesting about the results of this poll is that it seems split about half and half, suggesting the opinion is divided along political lines.
This poll is more telling about people's social/political beliefs than what is actually going on in this forum. A matter-of-fact comment about how an ethnic group of people affects politics to one person may be a "racist" comment to another. This thread really belongs in the opinion polls section.

 

sigh....read the definition of racism:

rac·ism   [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

Can you provide me one instance where a black, hispanic, or asian group is guilty of saying their race is the superior race and should rule over the other races? I can name numerous instances where that is said from "white supremacist", "white nationalist" groups. That is the definition of racism that this poll is following. There are more than several people here who think black/brown/asian people are beneath them, that's racist. They didn't teach that in school?

 

Is PF overrun with Racists?

yes.. the chosen race is very racist.

 

Supremacist = saying their race is the superior race and should rule over the other races.
Nationalist = Wanting to maintain ethnic-national states.

 

Racist is too narrow a term to attribute to a large majority of people on this forum. I prefer the broader scope of the term bigot, which includes intolerance of every type, not just racial. Far too many espouse bigotry in the guise of conservatism.

 

Like most people whose debate ability revolves around name calling, you fail to understand the meaning of the word "bigot". Bigot means stuck to one view in the face of contrary evidence. "Intolerant", unsurprisingly, means "intolerant". And of course it's perfectly reasonable not to tolerate some things.

 

I too have said many times that there are not that many racists, but there are a few, however there are many, MANY bigots. I might even claim that mantle regarding to a couple of subjects, well maybe not, I am always willing to change if there is evidence that shows my views are wrong etc.



big·ot

big·ot [bíggət]
(plural big·ots)
n
intolerant person: somebody who has very strong opinions, especially on matters of politics, religion, or ethnicity, and refuses to accept different views


rac·ist

rac·ist [ráyssist]
adj (disapproving)
1. based on racism: based on notions and stereotypes related to race
2. prejudiced against other races: prejudiced against all people who belong to other races “Black power … a call to reject the racist institutions and values of this society” Stokley Carmichael [Kwame Toure] and Charles Vernon Hamilton Black Power! 1967


n (plural rac·ists)
racist person: somebody who is racist

If we allow made up definitions the result is no one understanding the other, the opposite of good debate. Please lets use the dictionary definitions, then have a good productive debate~

reva

 

delete double brain fart post~

reva

 

The worst bigots I have ever encountered were "anti-racists". Any piece of tenuous reasoning that supposedly established the non-existence of races was parroted ad nauseam, in the face of careful and irrefutable counter points and sources.

"Bigot" is in no way synonymous with or even related to "racist".

 

Common sense tells us that those who make a big deal about racists and racism in general are almost always the anti racist crowd. Just this thread alone gives us an insight into the brainless workings of the race baiting mindset. Those people claiming not to have racist tendencies or are first to yell 'racist' are more than likely mamma's boys, panty waists, guilty white liberal males, and or psychologically unstable social retards.

 

Libhater has won the debate.

 

What insight can you give a blind man?

Perhaps a white stick for your good self?

Ooooh...and what common sense can a man have that never listens to anything but his own dogma?

He must be right because he hears nothing but what he regurgitates, his own bile and venom!

Regards
Highlander