Is President Biden a racist?

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Is President Biden a racist?

Poll closed Feb 6, 2022.
  1. Yes, he is a racist.

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  2. No, he is not a racist.

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  3. I don't care one way or the other.

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  1. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    I notice there are several posters here on PF who refer to President Biden as a racist. I agree he has said things in the past that could be considered racist. And his support of the 1994 Crime Bill, that hurt African-Americans disportionally, wasn't good.
    But, I believe people can change. Our life experiences, age, etc. can cause us to change. President Biden has chosen a woman of color as his VP, an African-American man as the Sec. of Defense, and has announced he will pick an African-American woman as his SC nominee.
    Do President Biden's recent actions prove he isn't racist? Or is he still a racist in your opinion despite what he has done?
    Please share your thoughts.
     
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  2. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    About a week ago after McConnell got himself in hot water, we had a poster go off the deep end over it. Okay, it's a forum, all fine and well. But we had this post in response:

    And that's on top of his fond, loving memories of having worked with many racists/segregationists - stuff he was unapologetic for, especially when being asked to their eulogies.

    The bottom line is this: If it were ANYONE else saying these comments - maybe a co-worker, maybe your governor or senator or somesuch who was NOT a political ally? You wouldn't even think of asking if s/he was a racist, their own words would condemn them. But it's Biden so he gets a pass on these and other actions and statements that are well documented.
     
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  3. Moriah

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    Has he redeemed himself by his favorable actions toward African-Americans in recent times?
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is Biden racist? He is because he's white and he can't deny it. He's racist and so are his wife and kids because they're white too. Just wanted to clear this up - ask me anything.
     
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  5. Stuart Wolfe

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    He has shown no sign of even seeking redemption as he keeps making the same kinda statements over and over again. In fact if anything - his statements that "Imma get a WOC as my nominees" which he said regarding his VP pick and his future Supreme Court pick - I'd feel a bit patronized by that. Our Great White Saviour will bring us to the promised land! Uh-huh. He basically sees minorities as check boxes and not actual qualified people. I got MANY kinds of mutt blood in me - I kinda feel second-hand resentment/embarrassment/whatever word works with Biden's statements.

    I think had a former prez said any of these things - even one or two - NO amount of future favorable actions would ever be enough, and I think we all know that. Biden's said and done too much that is racist to ever think he has the possibility to change; racism is basically part of his core belief system. Really, the amazing thing is that given all the stuff Biden has done, that his political allies forgive stuff that would be unforgivable for anyone else - unless they have a D by their name.
     
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    Trump said some pretty ugly things too. Only difference is Trump only appointed ONE African-American to an important post---Ben Carson as Sec of HUD. (Which Carson wasn't really qualified for since his career was in medicine).
    I don't believe the WOC who were chosen by President Biden should feel diminished. If they are qualified for their jobs, that's all that matters---and they are qualified.
     
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    "Ask me anything". OK. Have we ever had a President who WASN'T racist in your opinion?
     
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    You look at where Trump was in the 70's and thereabouts and where Biden was at the same time, in comparison Biden was practically a card-carrying member of the KKK. Heck, considering Byrd was his BFF, Biden probably still IS a member. And considering who his friends were - there's no getting around the fact that Biden's core beliefs are in racism and white supremacy, or at least avoiding racial jungles. People somehow seem to forget that. Trump has said a lot of dumb things but at his core I don't think he's a racist; the only color he sees is green and what he mostly thinks of is how to get more. And that's as far as I wanna go here since the thread is about Biden.

    Maybe not. It would be one thing if Biden said "Imma get the best qualified person for the position," and then nominates a POC. But that's not Biden. He puts race first THEN picks someone. If that's not patronizing; if that's not using minorities as tokens, I dunno what is.
     
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    Yes, Obama and possibly Jimmy Carter. Probably our the worst two presidents of the modern era.
     
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    @Moriah In the 1970s and early 80s Biden worked hard in Congress to prevent the integration of public schools in Delaware. It’s a matter of record.

    At some point later, his political instincts correctly told him that supporting racists and racism was not politically viable, so he changed his stripes. For a political careerist, it was as easy as throwing away an old suit and putting on a new one.

    But underneath that suit is the same man.
     
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    I don't know about racist but definitely a girl sniffer. I'm not sure which is worse. :lol:
     
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    How about the early Presidents who were slaveowners? I hear 14 out of the first 16 Presidents were slaveowners.
    Only ones who weren't slaveowners were John Adams and Abraham Lincoln.
    Slaveowners MUST have been racists.
    Correct, @lemmiwinx?
     
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    The selection of Kommie as VP was 110% political. The old man, white Dem needed to balance his ticket thus selecting Kommie, a black?, leftist female. It was all about the votes she could bring.
    Absolutely worst racist since LBJ.
     
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    What do you think upsets MAGA people the most: Biden's past racism or his present kindness to African-Americans?
     
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    I got over slavery decades ago you'll have find something more recent to make me feel guilty.
     
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    Of course he is a racist. He picks a VP based on race and now professes to pick a SCJ based on race. He is indeed a racist even apart from his earlier sentiments in backing Robert Bird, and declaring we are turning schools into a "racial jungle"!
     
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    Shall we take it as a given that we have concluded Biden is a racist and that now we're seeking some form of "relative" racism in which Biden comes off better because at least he didn't own slaves? Because that's my takeaway from your post here.

    By the way, @Seth Bullock made a great point a few posts above. Biden's political foundation is still pretty much the same as Byrd's, Wallace's, James Eastland's, and Herman Talmadge. Not that we SHOULD see you seeking forgiveness for them either, but it is odd that you seek redemption for their racial ideologue.
     
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    His "present kindness" is only because he wants to "own" them once again!

    He said, "If I don't have your vote then you ain't black!"
     
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    It's not an issue of you feeling guilty. I'm just asking if those 14 Presidents were racist? You said "Ask me anything".
     
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    Obama increased racist division more than any President this and last century!
     
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    Biden's racism has never been very subtle.

    "Since entering the presidential race, former Vice President Joe Biden has faced repeated questions about past statements he’s made criticizing school busing, fondly remembering racist white senators, and helping pass draconian laws in the ill-conceived drug war."

    "A September 20, 1987, story in the Philadelphia Inquirer reported Biden had bragged about receiving an award from George Wallace, the former Alabama governor and one of America’s most notorious segregationists. The same story went to quote a presidential primary campaign speech Biden had given in Alabama in which he said “we (Delawareans) were on the South’s side in the Civil War.”
    THE ROLLING STONE, POLITICS NEWS, Joe Biden in 1987: ‘We (Delawareans) Were on the South’s Side in the Civil War’ By ANDY KROLL & JAMIL SMITH, JULY 19, 2019.
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/joe-biden-delaware-civil-war-860886/

    Biden and has been positioned to actually help black families and communities for over half a century of decline.



    And those were the 'good old days' for black Americans in Baltimore.
     
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    In all honesty the 14 slave owning Presidents were racists. Now you want to wallow in that and tear down their statues? And loot the local Walgreens and Apple stores too?
     
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    In a culture where slavery was a fact, it was possible to own slaves, knowing no different, and not be racist. It wasn't until they had to try and defend their institution that it most definitely became racist. Understand this....slavery was not always based on race. That is peculiar to the slavery once had in this country. I say this because of the evidence of American leaders that began to free their slaves of their own volition. George Washington being one of them. People today want to judge beople of 150 years ago by todays standards. That is impossible to do. If Moriah had been born into a family that had servants/slaves and had she grown up with them and had relationships with them....would that make her a racist for accepting their position?
     
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    Improving the lot of black Americans will diminish the power of the DP.

    "These Northern Democrats are in cahoots with the Southern Democrats. They’re playing a giant con game, a political con game. You know how it goes. One of them — One of them comes to you and makes believe he’s for you, and he’s in cahoots with the other one that’s not for you. Why? Because neither one of them is for you, but they got to make you go with one of them or the other. So this is a con game. And this is what they’ve been doing with you and me all these years."
    SHADOWPROOF.COM, MALCOLM X: “DON’T BE A CHUMP”, By Jane Hamsher, 26/8/2009.
    https://shadowproof.com/2009/08/26/malcolm-x-dont-be-a-chump/

    The DP actively exploits and oppresses poor black Americans. RP politicians for the most part abandoned black Americans during and after reconstruction. IMO, they fear the DP.
     
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    Did they really abandon them or did they just not treat them as a segregated group demanding "special attention"?
    You do know President Grant did an awful lot to rescue Blacks from real racists.
     
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