Is Richard Dawkins a racist?

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  1. Unifier

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    Already answered this.
     
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    No, I wouldn't... and I wouldn't because racists aren't objective. People like Richard Dawkins are only as "enlightened" as current science allows them to be. Someone like Mr. Dawkins (I very much doubt) would be resistant to some meaningful evidence that suggests a deity's existence... these guys operate on fact and evidence. Duke, on the other hand, couldn't care less about anything other than his opinion on the matter.
     
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    You're not basing this speculation on anything substantial here. You realize that, right? Dawkins' own personal opinions of religion are well documented. And they are very negative. Thus there is little reason to believe that - hypothetically - were science to lead him to the conclusion that the Bible is correct, he would be any more likely to accept it than David Duke would be to reach an objective verdict in a discrimination case. Remember, according to Duke, he's objective too. Watch his youtube channel sometime. He insists that he believes in equality and that the media and society misrepresents what he's about.
     
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    Hyperbole noted.
     
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    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Okay... maybe I'm just not seeing the crime in that. His view of religion is that it's childs play meant for the weak in need of something higher to give them peace. That's very subjective, but the scientific theory he's developed behind his disbelief in a creator is sound (given the evidence apparent to all of us).

    No, no... read my statement again. I didn't say anything about the him eventually believing in the Bible. I said if there were significant evidence as to
    the existence of a deity.

    Yes, I'm fully aware that racists are crazy people.
     
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    I don't see where the OP said that Dawkins was a racist. He merely asked the question...do you think Dawkins is a racist. Amazing how sensitive you leftists can get at the mere hint of someone perhaps having a touch of racism.
     
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    Dawkins didn't say anything racist in the first place.
     
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    Yeah, that's my point, but it still didn't stop these leftists from having a cow over it.
     
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    The forthcoming America race war will at least remove all illegal aliens and their
    progeny. Blacks quickly herded into exclusive "territories".
     
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    Yeah, we can only hope, or we can gear up for the revolution ahead of time.
     
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    Go back to bed, it was just a dream...
     
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    Everyone is entitled to make moral judgements, irrespective of their profession. Exposing the stupidity of organised religion is a good thing.
     
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    Why would any choice that turns your skin to non-black be a stupid choice?
     
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    Indoctrinated? Aren't all children without theism until they are taught a religous doctrine?
     
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    Dawkins does differentiate between modern muslims and modern Christians. That doesn't make him a racist but some left-liberals are likely to call him a racist or bigot for these views. Sam Harris, like Dawkins, is one of the so called "New Atheistis", and is dealing with accusations of being racist over his own views of Islam. This essay by Harris is a response to his critics: Response to Controversy

    The resort to ad hominem by apologists for Islam is common enough to make the OP's original question plausible and it would be intellectually honest for 'liberals' to admit that many (not necessarily most, just many) among them DO regard criticism of Islam as some form of racism or bigotry.
     
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    Spending the ice age in the northernmost continent was stupid and they paid a heavy price, imagine what happen to those with dark skin ....
     
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    I apologize if someone has posted the following.

    Is Dawkins racist for saying what is shown in the video?

    No.

    One reason is that race is not involved. People who worship Allah aren’t a race of people. I thought this would be obvious.

    Yes, I know that people complain that other people criticize murderous Islamic beasts, but there is no racial element.
     
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    Excellent point. In my opinion no religion should be taught as doctrine, and nobody should be coerced into a faith-based belief system when they are not old or mature enough intellectually to make an informed decision about what they choose, or choose not, to believe.
     
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    Which makes about as much sense as a lecturer in architecture asking what effect the price of fish in Venezuela might have on the structural integrity of a load-bearing I-beam. If Dawkins mentioned nothing about race perhaps you can explain why the OP did in connection with the video?
     
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    The OP is asking you to evaluate what Dawkins says. Dawkins is making certain distinctions (muslims are more dangerous in the present day than other religious groups) that many liberals don't want to accept (not egalitarian or multi-cultural enough) and many critics of Islam are called racist for seeing and reporting these distinctions. I provided an example of this in a prior post.
     
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    I'm a atheist, and the arrogance displayed by Dawkins and other militant atheist, just makes me shake my head.
     
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    Thanks for chiming in there with the obvious reason and or meat of the post.
     
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    I don't think many children really have an opinion on it at all until society intervenes. That doesn't make them atheists. That simply makes them agnostic. I know I can personally trace my own roots back to this. I remember being 6 years old and quoting the big bang theory to my friend's mom when she told me about God for the first time. Not because I had any kind of in-depth knowledge of science at 6 years old but merely because I hadn't been to church yet at that point and had only been told about the big bang. I didn't even know what it was called. I just called it "explosions."
     
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    Having read the old testament, it's extremely sexist, racially intolerant and every bit as bad as Islamic doctrine.

    And it's still a book based on verbally passed down stories that were then heavily edited by so called church scholars to present a message that the church oligarchy wants pushed.

    How anyone can take the bible and think of it as a real document and not a work of fiction is beyond me.

     
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    Of course he has an agenda, or else he wouldn't be writing books that anger faithheads, would he? Most scientists stick to their scientific circles and don't make waves.

    Dr. Dawkins has taken issue with what he sees religion doing.. And it does impact his area of expertise. He has had to put up with creationists in his biology classroom, after all.
     

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