Is that pork? Alcohol? Sorry, sir, you have to see another cashier.

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  1. truth and justice

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    You've never seen a woman wearing a burka?

    Firstly how would you know who the woman was, the circumstances and who were her relatives? I'm sure the trial would have lasted minutes with immediate punishment and no reporting of the event. Secondly, you carried out collective punishment on the whole village??????
     
  2. skeptic-f

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    Part of the ongoing stupidity in the UK. As I understand it, most Muslims are not prohibited from being in the presence of pork or alcohol (in other words, most versions of Sharia don't do so) as long as they do not partake of it. Marks and Sparks is thus pandering to the comparatively small but vocal radical Muslim lobby in Britain. What's next: do the cashiers get a pass on serving a customer if they think he or she is dressed inappropriately?
     
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    I don't see it as pandering given that M&S have implemented an equal opportunities policy with regard to such matters.
     
  4. Mayor Snorkum

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    Sure, they have the right to freedom of religion, and their employers have the right to run their own business as they see fit. If an employee has a religious objection to how his employer runs his business or to certain tasks he's been hired to do, the employee has the right to QUIT. That's the limit of his freedom of religion. NO ONE is obligated to respect someone else's foolish religious beliefs, and NO ONE is obligated to make concessions to anyone else's foolish religious beliefs.

    You're absolutely right. People have the right to freedom of religion. They don't have a right to respect for their silly religious beliefs or practices.

    If someone's silly religion tells them they can't handle sealed bottle of beer or a paper-wrapped package of pork cutlets from the stores butcher department, then they shouldn't apply for positions that require them to handle such items. It's no complicated....not for normal people.

    The management of sensible companies DO have a reasonable policy for accomodating people with silly religious practices. If they don't do the job they were hired to do, for whatever reason, they get fired.

    You're one of those people that believe that when a illegal alien invading criminal takes up illegal residence in the United States, the government should bend over backwards printing everything in spanish because the invading criminal doesn't have the decency to respect the home he's invaded like a cucaracha, aren't you?
     
  5. Mayor Snorkum

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    Yeah, Special Forces members ALWAY confess to My Lai type massacres on open internet forums....
     
  6. Mayor Snorkum

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    In other words, your posse was not staffed nor run by professionals, but by little children in need of adult supervision.
     
  7. trout mask replica

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    M&S clearly have good employment practices in operation and are therefore sensitive to the religious needs of their staff. This is a progressive stance to take and I wish other company's would take M&S's lead on this. I salute M&S management. And I say that as an athiest.
     
  8. Marlowe

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    I prefer the veil - I my early travels ( late teens) being aroused by girls flirting their eyes :
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    Now in many British + European cities the hijab is more commonly seen -

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    btw - The Burka a custom and has sweet F - 'all to do with religion.

    ,,,
     
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    Meanwhile it channels considerable sums to support Zionists in Israel.

    For that reason I've long ago ceased visits to M + S.
     
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    Thanks for that. I wasn't aware. No more M&S meal deals for me.
     
  11. Marlowe

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    Ive no doubt - you'll find better deals /equal quality , elsewhere . Waitrose, perhaps , Hell , even Lidl's have considerably improved the quality of the products .

    Good Health + Happy New Year to you + yours.



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  12. Marlowe

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    Instead of meal deals - I get meals from any other stores , and excellent wines - good value - ( in case) - from my Barber - Gino or from our local chippy - Luigi - dirt cheap

    VIVA ITALIA .:smile:
     
  13. Colonel K

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    Part of that policy is to allow Christians the option of not being rostered for Sunday working. As for boycotts, ASDA (part of the Walmart family in Britain) have said they operate a similar policy.
     
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    Same to you.
     
  15. Stuart Wolfe

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    How many times must I repeat how lame this line of reasoning is, days off for certain situations such as college students having Tuesdays and Thursdays off for classes, mothers having certain hours free because sitters aren't available, and kids still working at school not having morning shifts have been staples of workplaces since who knows how long now.

    The only kind of person who could possibly make this argument would be someone who's never actually worked anywhere. Which might explain many things.
     
  16. Colonel K

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    I hope the computer they let you play with doesn't have sharp corners, you might put an eye out or something. Repetition of a non-working argument doesn't make it work. Change hobby-horses.
    There are many roles within the working environment of a store, using those staff best equipped to perform them is highly efficient.
     
  17. Stuart Wolfe

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    I thank you for caring about my safety and am glad that in the UK there are no sharp teeth for them to accidentally hurt their fingers on while brushing their teeth - or any teeth or toothbrushes for that matter.

    Which is still nowhere near the strawman argument you were making. Christians getting Sundays off is about as common as students at a fast-food joint getting days off for college, it's been happening for a very long time and schedulers have handled it forever. Well over half the staff at the Carl's Jr. I worked at while in college had scheduling issues and the assistant manager in charge of it juggled them all pretty well. Your issue about Christians needing a day off is a complete non-issue.
     
  18. Politically Incorrect

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    "A little diversity"- heck yeah, I love some aspects of foreign culture. But when the foreign culture tries to dominate the native culture, then I draw the line.
     
  19. AboveAlpha

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    I have never seen a woman wearing a Burka in the U.S. although I am sure some do...sorry...I should have been more clear.

    What happened that night is something I will NOT go into detail but I have Members of my Team which includes myself that can speak and understand many languages such as Farsi, Urdu, Mandarin....etc.

    The Husband and Father of the girl were FORCED to throw the first stones...the Father-in-Law....was one of the people advocating this severe sentence as in this culture the Rape of a Family Member brings shame upon the whole family....so even though this man was the Father of the Husband....he wanted his Daughter-in-Law...dead.

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    I am NOT Military.

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    You have no idea what I am or what my Team does or is about....and if it was not for the fact I am a..."CIVILIAN"...and I do not salute nor do I have to take any JOB I feel to be an issue or unnecessary...I have a great deal more flexibility than the usual types that do such...JOBS.

    I am ALLOWED to post here....but I do have constraints....one of these is to never post anything that might cause OPSEC issues.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    People would assimilate of the culture is strong enough. Have you tried teaching them that ridiculous accent yet?
     
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    YOU confessed that your "team" conducted a massacre.

    That's really all anyone needs to know, isn't it? No one who was really on such a mission would blather about their crime all over the Internet. That's what is called an "OPSEC issue".
     
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    It's one thing to have a special agreement for a specific part-time schedule.

    The part-time employee, when at work, is expected to do his complete job description.

    That isn't what the topic is, here. The topic here is an employee getting absurd work exemptions because he has absurd religious beliefs.
     
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    I know. The poster who was making that absurd claim was trying - and failing - to equate making excuses for not doing the same job everyone else at the store is expected to do with a policy that has been a standard part of scheduling for - good grief, a very very long time. It's a failed attempt to move the goalposts. And he keeps making the same argument. It's not as if the person who asks for Sundays off is doing any less work on the days he IS working - and since people generally get at least one day off from work anyway, what kind of sense does it make to say Christians ask for one of those days to be a Sunday? The argument only makes sense if everyone worked a seven-day week and said hypothetical Christian was asking to work six.

    And yeah, it's also a lame deflection away from the topic, not to mention making lame excuses for Islam itself. Said alcohol is completely surrounded by glass, bacon is shrink-wrapped in plastic, pork in cans and suchlike. So there is no physical way that this "worker" could actually touch the products she's whining about. It's really all about imposing their religious beliefs in the workplace.
     
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    And if a cashier's religious beliefs forebade them from serving old people, would you tell them to get in another line? Just how dumb are you going to get?
     

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