Is this the real thing? Obama's Original Birth Certificate, Mombasa , Kenya!

Too bad there's no proof of any liberal bias, w/ the exception of Kos...

Can't stand them...

 

There is no birth certificate.

 

Except, of course, for the one that you've already seen...

 

Yes,the Obama Birther mystique has turned into the worlds most
complicated puzzle.Of course it didn't have to.But then how else
can the seemingly obvious be turned around and made to look
other than what really is.By exemplifying what those Web sites
and Obama surrogates do.They conflate.Like a Magic act.
Like a complication applied to a fine watch when in fact,
the complication is merely 3 card monte.

 

You're absolutely right 'it didn't have to be.' If Obama had personally addressed the issue when it first came up, it might have died.

Look what's for sale on barackobama.com...



Not hard to see who's actually keeping this one going is it?

 

Oh looky - it's Mr. Obama's ugly mug.

 

Who claims to have been there, and why would they need to 'come forward'-for the amusement of idiot birthers? So, no, I don't think it's strange at all. Furthermore how on earth do you think anyone who probably delivered a dozen babies a day, month after month, is going to recall ONE, and 40-odd years ago at that. I can't remember who was in my own living room a month ago!
Remember, he wasn't president then-just another baby and nothing special except to his parents.

 

Yeah, a little extra "fu" to the birthers.

 

The only way to resolve this is to do two things:

1) Have a formal congressional investigation.

2) Ammend the Constitution to define once and for all the definition of a natural born citizen.

By the way, I used to be a birther, then I gave it up because President Obama put out the long form birth certificate. But now I hear that too, (like the short form) is a forgery. So, until I here confirmation from the federal government, FBI and from Hawaii authorities that it is genuine, I am back in the birther club. Oh, and until they can resolve all of Obama's other citizenship and SSN issues.

 

Or we could follow the already established precedent and the Constitution and use the documents that have already been provided and verified by the state of Hawaii.

 

All you did was troll a roundly debunked (years ago) fake birth certificate made by a felon. If you now realize this is and always was a fake, your question has been answered, and you should ask the mods to lock the thread.

You'd have to ask one. I'm not an Obama supporter. I can't stand his politics.

1. I'm not a mod or an admin, so I have no way of suppressing anything here.
2. You don't have any First Amendment rights to post here. Unsurprising you wouldn't know that, though, because you're a birther, and birthers prove time and time again they are 100% ignorant of Constitutional Law, top to bottom and left to right.

Nobody can prove any President was born here. Why have you accepted every other candidate for President, EVERY ONE, without so much as a birth certificate, and yet you question this one?

Gee... What makes this one different from all the rest? I wonder...

No. Why do you think it's strange that people haven't "come forward" stating that they remember one particular baby out of thousands they saw in the hospital a half-century ago? Some of them are probably dead, for starters.

Could you testify to every burger you've flipped, or whatever, at your job? I think not.

Who's putting faith in Obama's words?

With that kind of statement, I have to assume you are completely ignorant of the developments that have taken place in this situation. I mean, like, criminally ignorant almost.

The State of Hawaii has, on numerous occasions, verified Obama's Hawaiian birth, and has verified his documents as authentic.

With that kind of verification (from the issuing authority), why do we need to trust Obama?

How is it very possible?

See above. The State of Hawaii, whose high-ranking officials include several Republicans, authenticated his birth in Hawaii. There's literally no room for debate on this.

No, I haven't heard there's a court case going on in Georgia, because there isn't one.

There's an administrative hearing. And so what? In every case there's a winner and a loser. The mere fact that a case exists, or is filed, means nothing until the decision is reached.

If I filed a case that said "User Smartmouthwoman has an IQ of 45," would you accept that as fact? Or would you tell people to see what the court says when it's thrown out?

Who's they?

Give me one person who has examined the actual document (not a scan of it) and declared it to be fake. Just one.

Nothing to explain. The State of Hawaii says it's real, therefore it is.

Why would we need to do this? Hawaii verified his documentation as real.

Why? It's not disputed in case law. It's literally one of the most settled Constitutional concepts there is. There have been literally millions of cases that have ruled various things with regard to the 4th Amendment, with all kinds of rules and tests and exceptions and reversals and everything, and people argue about it every day in court. Meanwhile, no one save for a few kooks argues about what a natural-born citizen is.

The issue hadn't come up in over a hundred years until, coincidentally I'm sure, a half-black liberal with a funny, Muslim-sounding name tried to run for President. But that's just coincidence, right, that you didn't raise the question until then? Right?

Hear from who? Kooks on the internet?

Giving kooks on the internet more credibility than a previously unquestioned state department of records, with no evidence or reason to do so, is a classic example of confirmation bias.

What other citizenship issues?
And the Constitution (obviously) does not require a person to even HAVE a SSN to be President. So how is that relevant?

Again, you, like the others, curiously raise these issues now, with this President, and never before in your lifetime... Never. And currently, still, you don't raise issues.

Why do you accept without question that Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, and Rick Santorum are all 100% eligible to be President, but not Obama? Obama has provided far more than any of them (more than any candidate in history) proving he is eligible. Yet you take all of them as eligible and question his eligibility.

Why would a reasonable person conclude that your beliefs are anything other than unmitigated, unsupported bias, based on that known fact?

 

LOL! Seriously????

yeah okay. It would be reeeeally smart for the ConservaRepubLitarians to make themselves laughingstocks again by bringing up this crap.
YOu know, there ARE things that non-kool-aid drinkers find legitimately wrong with Obama. Jus sayin'

 

The bottom line is, the State of Hawaii has authenticated his birth certificate.

That means his birth certificate is real. If they are in on some kind of conspiracy, it would still be real (because the same conspirators would be able to provide him with one that is real yet contains false information).

Therefore, we can deduce that anyone who continues to doubt the authenticity of the birth certificate must be a moron, incapable of applying that simple bit of logic to this situation.

Period.

 

Yes, I have said that many times.

The only conspiracy I see as plausible is that Obama's low-level people are actually funding the prominent birthers (like Taitz) because, every time she pops up, conservatives look stupid and racist.

Any conservative that does not disavow Orly Taitz and her ilk, and declare birthers to be complete, idiotic, pieces of (*)(*)(*)(*), is perpetuating this nonsense and harming the cause of people who legitimately oppose Obama (like me).

 

Prove it.

Serously- show us.

I will say with absolute certainty that his grandmother never said any such thing. Matter of fact, she never even discussed the issue.

Just false.

 

Perhaps you are correct- though it certainly appeared to be a intentional lie, since he stated he did check, and when anyone else checks they find the Snopes report in seconds. Maybe it merely appears that he lied.

Certainly anything is possible. But there is no evidence to support anything you have given your opinion on. Thug? Do you have some evidence to show that he was robbing elderly of their social security checks or some such thing? Pictures of him attacking Republicans with a stick?

The claim is as ridiculous as if I were to call Newt a 'thug'- he is a liar and morally cretinous, but not a thug.

 

Nope- no court case going on. Just an administrative hearing where the judge let Birthers rant about Obama.

Fool's claims though have already been thoroughly debunked- and have nothing to do with the hearing in Georgia.

 

Seriously you believe all of these cites are part of conspiracy?

Seriously?

No wonder Jerome Corsi still manages to sell a few books

 

You explain it.

The facts we do know:

The State of Hawaii has officially and repeatedly declared that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

You explain that.

 

You too can buy a copy of the birth certificate that the State of Hawaii has said is authentic.

Really the best way to deal with ridiculous claims is humor- I love the mugs.

 

I think your demands for action are going to be disappointing. Congress avoids Birthers like the plague and no one has expressed any interest in a Constitutional amendment to satisfy a few members of the fringe far right.

But welcome back to the Birther club. They will appreciate your contributions

 

I dunno whether this certificate is true or not, but, in any case Hussein was born in Africa and do not allow to run for potus.

 

I am sure there is someone named Hussein who was born in Africa....

But Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born citizen.

Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs:
Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

We just spoke with plaintiff Kevin Powell and he reports Judge Malihi has ruled against the Plaintiffs and stated in his order that Obama was born in Hawaii and therefore Obama is a natural born Citizen.

 

LOL... This guy's classic. (*)(*)(*)(*) the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

Don't let the mountains of evidence that say you're wrong get in your way, guy. Press on, against all sense and sensibility, right?

 

It's not true. The fraud was proven years ago.

Why is this thread in "current events" again?

It should be in stale disproven nutjob conspiracies.