Isn't it time you yanks grew up over your gun death epidemic?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Oz and the Orcestra, May 25, 2020.

  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    You forgot Northern Ireland.
     
  2. Moolk

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    No you are wrong, nothing I said is advocating criminal behavior. You simply made that up.

    No, you should read better. I said weak, not week.
     
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    I am not aware of the "yanks" being involved in Northern Ireland in an official capacity.
     
  4. Thingamabob

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    Not even pointed sticks?
     
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    False. You said ... and I quote .....
    That is supporting breaking the law and that makes you anti-Democracy and anti-American.

    And no, you should write better. You said to. Not too.
     
  6. Moolk

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    Incorrect, because regardless of how you or anyone else on the left feels it is a constitutional right. So again, you are wrong. Nothing about what I’ve said is supporting breaking the law.
    No, you should read better. I said weak, not week.
     
  7. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am correct on both points. Repetitive denials cannot change the fact(s). If you are in doubt simply read my replies and take particular note of the quotes which are in your own words verbatim. :arrow: Have a nice day.
     
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    I don't think you're serious, but what form would a "total ban on guns" look like, legislatively? I'll take a shot:

    "The manufacture, sale, possession or use of firearms is hereby prohibited. The secretaries of commerece and of the interior shall enjoy full power to collect or confiscate, by force if necessary, any and all firearms wherever located within the United States."

    Andc constitutionally, we could have "The Fourth Amendment is hereby repealed."

    I'm good at this. Now...

    What percentage of gun owners would cooperate with this?
     
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    Maybe not official involvement but you must be aware of NORAID.
     
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    American guns saved england in world war 2, they have allowed england to remain civilised.
     
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    And both of us got that "obsession" from the natural right to self-defense.

    Evidently, George III didn't learn from James II's mistake. The first battle of the American Revolution occurred when George tried to take his opponents' guns away in Concord, Massachusetts.
     
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    Molon labe.

    Isn't it time you people grew up and minded your own business?
     
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    What such statistics do not reveal is the fact that approximately two thirds of all firearm-related deaths are suicide, rather than homicide. Meaning individuals are not out killing one another, they are simply killing themselves.

    The nation of Japan, for comparison, has significant firearm-related restrictions, but a far higher suicide rate than the united states.

    What can be done to address the core of the matter? Not the matter of the implement that is used, but the desire to use it at all? What can be done to reduce the rates of individuals wanting to end their own existence, or otherwise kill others for whatever reason they feel is a good enough excuse?
     
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    Please do. I've been for the US pulling back across the globe and letting the world kill each other.

    We can scoop up what's left when you all are done.

    **** the "global economy".
     
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    Never going to happen. This is a constitutional right.

    And the fallacy of banning guns, as if all the illegal gun owners (hint, those who actually use them for the violence of which you speak) are going to line up to turn in those guns..... All a gun ban would accomplish is to disarm the law abiding citizens, leaving them easy prey for the criminals. It kills me that the anti gun crowd cannot see this point.
     
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    Since when do lefties care about human life?
     
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    Are you suggesting that defending oneself from violence contributes to violence?
     
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    Far less than would revolt and secede because of it. Thats why they instead nibble at the edges of gun rights. They think it'll work if only its done progressively instead of all at once.
     
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    Isn't it time you yanks grew up over your gun death epidemic?

    Two problems with this poster's premise. Firstly, he has compared a country with millions of guns in the hands of the public to others that have almost none. Murders and suicides must be completed in some other way than shooting a firearm.

    Secondly, he fails to mention that a very large portion of gun related deaths happen in gang warfare. Our gangs are armed. As a nation we have done a poor job of cleaning up the gangs.

    As a final point, I should mention that deaths from corona viruses occur every year not just once. A quick look at the history of influenza outbreaks will clear that up.
     
  22. Thingamabob

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    Add N.I. to my list.
     
  23. Thingamabob

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    Don't be absurd.
     
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    Isnt it time you Brits allowed your girls to grow up without being raped by Muslim grooming gangs?
     
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    No, we have a white nationalist gun violence problem.
     
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