Israel in violation of 4th Geneva Conventions

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  1. stuntman

    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    The IDF protect Arabs when they cultivate their land. I did it.

    Article 78 of the Ottoman law (as of the Jordanian law) is very clear, which I showed you here, but you prefer to ignore it.

    I'm not justifying anything! I'm just pointing out laws that exist in the West Bank and Israel is using. You dont like to read it so you prefer to ignore it.
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel is ignoring this law, by requiring ONLY Arab farmers cultivate 50%+ of land parcels or they forfeit the WHOLE land.

    Ottomans never had such a law.

    Israel started it so they could steal Arab land.

    and they have stolen 900,000 dunams of land this way.
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    Israel is evecuating Jews in the West Bank for the benefit of the Arabs + according to the Artice 78 of the Ottoman law, Israel can object when a farmer is cultivating on miri lands.

    Israel is obeying the laws in the West Bank! like Article 78, even your source says it. it's pitty that you ignore your own source.

    Article 78 as the Jordanian law with the Hague Convention say otherwise.
    It's a shame you are ignoring those laws.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how many Jews has Israel evacuated off Arab lands???

    on what grounds is Israel objecting to Arab farmers keeping their cultivated lands?

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    someone lied to you, as Israel isn't obeying the laws, they changed them to fit their selfish desires.

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    Israel is ignoring Jordanian laws regarding land registration to farmers.

    stop stealing land!!!
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    Alot of families got evecuated in the West Bank. I already provided to this forum alot of links referng thta.

    Israe objection is according to Article 78 of the Ottoman law.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how many Jews?

    what are the grounds for Israel's objection?

    they want to give the land to Jews, rather than Arabs.

    racist Israel has been exposed.
     
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    I already provided you in this thread how Israel is obeying the laws, but you prefer to ignore them.
    No one lied to me. I used your own sources to rainforce my claims.

    If you would bold it and write it biger and biger, it doesnt make I true! Even yout sources providing laws that rainforce my claims.
    Pitty that you ignore your own sources.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you can't significantly change laws and at the same time claim to be following them!!!

    :roflol:
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    So now you are making it a "numbers war"? very mature of you!
    You cant ignore and say that the evecuation that Israel is doing in the West Bank doesnt happen!

    A little question:
    If you incourge evecuation of Jews in the West Bank, would you incourge also the evecuation of Qalandia? because Qalandia was built on the Jewish villages of Atarot and Neve Ya'akov which got evecuated in 1948.

    The grounds is Articel 78 of the Ottoman law.

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    I took Article 78 of the Ottoman law from you source- Betselem.
    Are you saying that Betselem are lying? if so, why are you using them as your source?
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    now you're insulting my level of maturity?

    I must be winning the debate, as your desperation to pisss me off has increased.

    :roflol:

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    what is Israel's reason for objecting to Arab farmers become the owners of the lands they cultivate?

    come on, you can admit it. we all know the reason. :)
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    I'm not desperate to do anything! And I didnt insult you, I refered to the actions and not people!

    Israel's reason for objecting is Article 78 of the Ottoman law.

    BTW- I'm still waiting for your answers about my questions!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    as per Article 78 of the Ottoman Land law, what is Israel's objection to Arab farmers being owners of the lands they cultivate?

    must be because they want the JEWS to control all the land, and Arabs owning more land violates their Zionist ambitions.

    go ahead and deny it, I know you will. :roflol:
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    For example, asspirations to built in the land infrastructure which benefit Arabs and Jews.
    The UN also wrote in their report from September 2012 that Israel built infrastructure which benefit Arabs and Jews.

    This is your assumption, but it doesnt make it a fact! Israel is not controling all of the West Bank!!

    A little question:
    If you incourge evecuation of Jews in the West Bank, would you incourge also the evecuation of Qalandia? because Qalandia was built on the Jewish villages of Atarot and Neve Ya'akov which got evecuated in 1948.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israeli-only settlements and roads for Israelis-only, don't benefit Palestinians.

    Discriminatory use of State Land on Occupied Territory, is a war crime.

    Why do you defend war crimes?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel controls 55% of the West Bank, even though most of that land is NOT owned by Jews.

    Palestinians should leave all land formerly owned by Jews, and Jews should leave all land that was owned by Arabs or would have been registered to Arab-ownership had the Israelis not violated Turkish, Jordanian, and British law!!
     
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    As you could see in the video, that Arab and Israeli cars are using the same roads in the West Bank:
    [video=youtube;fhER9T9Tobs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhER9T9Tobs[/video]

    in minute 1:00 you could see it very clearly that there is several of "Palestinian" cars and in the end you can notice an Israeli one.
    Please stop ignoring!


    AS the UN says:
    Source: http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ocha_opt_movement_and_access_r eport_september_2012_english.p df

    Are you saying that the UN are liers?



    Israel is obeying the laws of the West Bank, as I already showed you. It's pitty that you prefer to ignore that.

    Israel is evecuating Jews they giving lands back to Arabs when it was proven.
    You cant violate a law that you obey!!
     
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    Last I read, in Hebron Jews that (re)bought former Jews homes were evicted because the court wasnt convinced by their proves, about 30 families from total of 3 buildings.

    In Hebron and East Jerusalem we are talking about empty Houses argubly bought and paid for, but I agree "LAND" sounds more dramatic, especially if you scream it !
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, Israel changed the law so they could steal 900,000 dunams of land and kick Arabs off their farms.

    this is why the world hates Israel.
     
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    Then tell the "world" it can go (*)(*)(*)(*) itself, the "world" keeps posting these "why I hate Israel" threads twice a day in diffrent headlines and added it in its signature - and it still makes no diffrence. the "world" doesnt threat anybody, it just drives ppl away from moderate reasoning by spreading hate.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    let's see how long Israel survives without tourism and trade from the world.

    all Israeli products should be boycotted as long as Israel refuses to label them as being from Israel or the West Bank.
     
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    Keep waiting for that to happen.
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    Article 78 of the Ottoman law says that the state (Israel) cant object when a farmer cultivate miri land. Israel is obeying that law.
     
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    their objection is RACIST, as they only want the land for Jews.
     
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    Israel is also building Infrastructures on benefit of the Arabs and Jews. Also the UN says so, it's a pitty that you are ignoring the UN.
     
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    The British determined that the State must begin its dispute with the land user within ten years of the farmer using the land. After ten years the dispute is null & void.

    Israel ignores these laws.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/85381860/...y-Declarations-on-state-land-in-the-West-Bank

    The article includes an exception to the rule according to which a private person may hold land only if hewas given a kushan. The article states that a person who holds miri and and cultivates it for 10 years“without dispute” may receive a kushan
    free of charge, and thus acquire tasarruf rights in it – even though he took possession of the land without first obtaining government permission.

    Article 78 of the Land Code is intended to encourage cultivation of land, so that the central government can benefit from the tithe on agricultural produce.

    The British Mandate court ruled that the phrase “without dispute” in article 78 should be interpreted asabsence of active objection by the government to the person’s possession of the land, by an action for eviction. If the state wishes to prevent a farmer from acquiring rights in miri land that was not assigned tohim, it must file a legal suit against him before10 years lapse from the day he took possession of the landand began cultivating it.

    Failure to file a legal suit within the 10-year period forecloses the state’s right tosue for eviction later



    Israel has CHANGED this law, so they clearly ignore existing British and Jordanian law!!!!!
     

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