Israel to Strike Iran this Spring??

Europeans generally miss the great America that existed back then. America used to have a very positive image.

 

Correct. Then it abandoned sense and morals and blindly supported fascism in the Middle East for its oil and strategic dreams.

 

USA did not play any important role in WWI or WWII.

The WWII was won by the Evil Soviets, and the Bankster from the Wallstreet were just the allies of these Evil Soviets who supported them with money.

So the WWII was won by the Wallstreet bankers and Zionists who managed to create Israel after WWII.

Russians, Germans, French, English, Americans and all White Europeans just senselessly killed each others in WWI and WWII and that was the first step to their demise.

Today everybody (except some incurable fools) can see the devastating impact of these senseless wars on the European Civilization.

 

What abandon, unlike some who should be ashamed at their endless occupation called "Apartheid," we invaded a Muslim Country (Iraq), of more than 30 million souls, whose Islamifascist Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party dictator of his proxy (see footnote) Al Quacka said, "They should, rather, be reassured and helped to save themselves, and their surroundings," under the name of Operation Iraqi Freedom, and we left it; Mission Accomplished!

Logically due to the phrase, "They should, rather, be reassured and helped to save themselves, and their surroundings," we could not finish in Afghanistan until we finished there in Iraq.

Footnote:

March 1997: "Though Bin Ladin had promised Taliban leaders that he would be circumspect, he broke this promise almost immediately, giving an inflammatory interview to CNN in March 1997. The Taliban leader Mullah Omar promptly 'invited' Bin Ladin to move to Kandahar, ostensibly in the interests of Bin Ladin's own security but more likely to situate him where he might be easier to control.73
There is also evidence that around this time Bin Ladin sent out a number of feelers to the Iraqi regime, offering some cooperation. None are reported to have received a significant response. According to one report, Saddam Hussein's efforts at this time to rebuild relations with the Saudis and other Middle Eastern regimes led him to stay clear of Bin Ladin.74" (The 9/11 commission report, page 65-66)

July 1997, South Movement, "the path of Jihad and proper action": "Those who desire to face up to the Zionists conspiracies, intransigence, and aggressiveness must proceed towards the advance centers of capabilities in the greater Arab homeland and to the centers of the knowledge, honesty and sincerity with whole heartiness if the aim was to implement a serious plan to save others from their dilemma or to rely on those capable centers; well-known for their positions regarding the enemy, to gain precise concessions from it with justified maneuvers even if such centers including Baghdad not in agreement with those concerned, over the objectives and aims of the required maneuvers." (On the 29th anniversary of Iraq's national day (the 17th of July 1968 revolution). President Saddam Hussein made an important comprehensive and nation wide address) http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/countries/Iraq/speech.htm

 

There is nothing in the rules of war, nor in the UN Charter (Article 51), which allows a pre-emptive strike to be seen as anything but an act of aggression. Israel is a signatory to the Charter. Israel is in breach of hundreds of UN resolutions and is thus a criminal state.

 

Oh right, the 'saved your asses' crap again. Honey, you turned up two years late, Hitler had already given up any ideas of invading Britain (because we had defeated the Luftwaffe over England), and had begun a disastrous campaign on two fronts. The Soviet Union made a vastly superior contribution to winning WW2 in terms of men, women and children's lives than America, for all the help it gave, could possibly imagine.

US military losses in WW2 approximately 400,000.
Russian losses in WW2 approximately 9 million military and 10 million civilian. Russia was literally decimated, losing around 10% of its population.
So save that 'saved your asses' schtick for the ignorant and gullible.

 

Any nation under UN Charter (Article 51) has the right of self-defense to attack any nation that supports acts of war though support of international terrorism, where the United Nations (of tyrants too) has refused to use the Charter principles to remove threats to the peace...

"Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security." http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter7.shtml

"Therefore our struggle will end only when this entity is obliterated. We recognize no treaty with it, no cease fire, and no peace agreements, whether separate or consolidated." http://forabetterlebanon.blogspot.com/2008/02/hizbollahs-manifesto-english-version.html

That is a violation of the UN Charter.



That was a legitimate target of opportunity deserving of a 500 pound bomb under the Geneva Conventions rules of warfare.

 

Well, I just read someplace that Iran was going to go back to the negotiating table as regards internal nuclear proliferation.

Nothing like a large navy steaming your way to make you see the light, eh???

Nothing is off the table, however. Let's see how much Iran has "smartened up".

"and conquer we must, when our cause, it is just; and THIS BE OUR MOTTO, "in GOD is our trust".

all others pay cash...lol

 

Oh, excuse me, the USA wasn't in the Battle of the Bulge, let alone Normandy? You euros kill me...

 

ww1 was especially a joke, millions of people died for the whims of kings, I cant believe a civilized continent actually had monarchs with power as late as the 20th century. And you are right, the USSR did 95% of the heavy lifting in WW2. The only good thing about that war is that england began their decline to the pitiful joke of a country it is today.

 

You are right. israel should go back to their 1948 borders, or better yet, get the ---- out of the Middle East altogether.

 

ww I was about the overthrow of the old powers of europe, hapsburg, hanover et al.

the ushering in of the end of rule by a crown...divinity and all that horsecrap

 

This silly battle did not play any important role. The war was decided by the Soviets, and the Soviets could move on to the British Islands, they did not need USA or UK to win WWII in 1944.

Every educated person knows that.

 

What was wrong with these powers?
You do not have to kill the monarchs to establish a parliament and democracy.

The brutal killing of the Russian Zar and his children was a hideous crime, committed by non-Christians against Christians.

The Zarist Russia was a western democracy. The Bolshevik Empire was an anti-Christian tyranny that killed more than 20 Million Christians.

The Brits still have their Queen.
And Jews re-created the Kingdom of David that existed (according to legends) more than 2000 years ago.

If Kings and Kingdoms is BS, why did they recreate this Jewish religious BS, that existed only in legends?

 

I seem to recall that up until the European fallout of WWII, Jews and Muslims(both arabs) in the area now known as Israel got along fairly well up until then. What obviously changed this was the European carpetbaggers.

Most arguments around whether or not Israel deserves to exist are flawed. Most people on the planet live in nations that were once called something else. And yet their governments are still capable of making laws clearly stating all residents born inside their borders have rights of citizenship, regardless of ethnicity or religion.

Israel needs to grow up, join the rest of the civilized world and grant full rights of citizenship to all people born inside it's borders, Arab, European, Muslin, Jew, or Gentile. Then the "problem" will be over. Apart from the Arab citizens suing the state for destruction of private property that is.

 

quit pretending to care about innocent civilians while supporting and cheering for those that hide amongst and shoot from civilians.

 

thats a convenient loophole that allows criminal nations to strike first and even gives them the comfort of boasting about the impending attack while getting geared up for it. ive read these forums long enough to know that moon is a terrorist apologist, just thought id chime in a bit

as far as israel bombing iran, im sick of war. give it a rest already.

 

Yes the only nation derived by divinity (the seed of Issac) is Israel and the USA by proxy.

reva

 

I fully agree with your assessment of Moons true colors ie he is an terrorist and Palestinian apologist at the expense of truth. That said, believe it or not I also understand any sane persons desire to avoid war. The USA and Israel despite what the liars will attempt to blather about is anti war! In WW2 if someone said the USA wanted to be involved in the war in Europe (despite the satanic Hitlers atrocities) I would bet they would have been at the very least taunted, and probably mobbed and beaten unmercifully! Ha ha.

It took the bombing of Pearl Harbor and more than a thousand dead to force our hand in WW2. It took bombing the twin towers with more dead than pearl harbor and all of them innocents to force our hand to enter the war on Islamofascism er..terror.*

As a leader of the free world I would avoid war if possible. However if Iran is developing the bomb that is a very dangerous situation. Would it be worth going to war? No maybe not. However it would be worth chancing war, going to war by bombing the site or by sending in Mossad or CIA or SEAL operatives (to lower the among of civilians killed or wounded) to blow those bomb making facilities to hell and back.

* Even counting the massive casualties of the enemies of the USA in the near east I would never of left Afghanistan so early. I think we should eliminate 100 terrorists for every innocent they murdered in the towers and other terrorist actions. In other words the war on terror should be genocidal in nature meaning that it should not end until every terrorist is DEAD. Please if the Usual suspects are going to jump on the word 'genocidal' include the full quote,not an excerpt. Do not fabricate misdirect and otherwise deceive the membership.

reva

 

The US was involved in the ME long before 911. /facepalm

 

Well well you ignore the experts huh? If the USA had not of entered the war Hitler and japan would would have rolled over England and Europe like a steam roller over a (*)(*)(*)(*) ant. Educated person? You may be serious but you are uneducated if that is your position. Allow me to do something you conveniently refused to do provide valid sources to buttress my claim;

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When members lie to prove a point they should be infracted if they can not show that the statement was not a pure fabrication. Not to do so will make any forum a joke amongst the internet community eventually.

reva

 

You are speaking of Hamas terrorists right? They launch rockets into Israel while holding a baby for a shield? Yep, I detest them as well!

Reva

 

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The only king that the Jewish truly worship is God. Lastly the kingdoms you mention including the UK exist by the Grace and Blood of the USAs soldiers and leaders who died defending people that they thought was worthy of defending. Without our, the USA's assistance your countrymen would be kissing Hitlers butt. It's ungrateful liars that are not old enough nor have served in army, those pimple on the butt of real men ie the USA soldiers past and present, mouthpieces (no one here in this forum of course ) that make me wish we had never entered WW2 nor assisted the backstabbers that benefited by our sacrifice.

Reva

 

Israeli
'Blood Bank vulnerable to attacks, disasters'

Magen David Adom warns most of Israel's blood supply may be destroyed in case of war, natural disaster due to lack of fortification.


Israel's Blood Bank, which contains over 10,000 units of blood, is not protected against missile attacks and natural disasters, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Tuesday.



In fact, the establishment is so vulnerable that if it does find itself the target of a devastating incident, practically all of Israel's banked blood units would go down the drain.



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"It poses mortal danger," one official said. "If the blood supply is eliminated, patients could die. The State's decision-makers are disregarding the residents, and at a time of war we will all cry over spilled blood."



While the Tel Hashomer facility has two underground refrigerators, they are not protected from atomic, chemical or biological attacks. It would take at least 12 hours to transfer 97% of Israel's blood supply to a shelter – a period of time that could be critical in a time of emergency. But even if the supply is transported in time, the medical equipment that is necessary to keep the blood units functional is immobile, increasing the risk of infection.


"In case of a missile attack or an earthquake, we just won't be able to supply blood, and then no one will be able to shirk the responsibility," he added.