I want you to respond to my previous post, but for brevity's sake I'm going to try and respond to the remarks/opinions/accusations that are relevant to this thread and my own comments: Who said what? Please be specific. That may or may not be true, but sending a BDS rep to masquerade as a "fair and impartial" observer is all the evidence one needs of HRW's bias in this case. Again, refute the information. I've already told you I'm not interested in your 'shoot the messenger' fallacies and diversions. Wow - you have to be really Far Left to consider the DHFC Far Right. As for "hate consortiums" I'm sure that's a term many would use to refer to the BDS movement. Everyone's entitled to their opinions. Sure, and that explains why Israel never punishes anyone who violates a Palestinian's rights. You really should dispense with such silly statements - they might make you feel good but they don't help your credibility. You didn't even read the CCR report. How can you make such a ludicrous remark? Authoritative to you, perhaps. I'm afraid everyone doesn't agree with your assessment. The SPLC like the NAACP isn't the organization that it used to be, but I wouldn't expect a foreigner to know that. You've been telling lies about people and trying to destroy them yourself. Evidently, this is only a problem when the people you disagree with do it. Aye carumba. Maybe if you had opened up your mind and looked at the report you would have realized that. Yes, and we were discussing the objectivity and credibility of HRW and Mr. Shakir. Donald Trump Far Right? There are conservatives and libertarians such as Sen. Rand Paul who consider Trump another Northeast liberal a la Mitt Romney. Trump's views on the Kelo ruling and other issues don't qualify him as Far Right. Yes, I know what we're dealing with here. Many on the Right. I suppose the Far Right would, too. You don't get it. I agree with most of the UDHR just as I agree with most of the ICCPR and I agree with all of the Bill of Rights in the U.S. Constitution. I accept that you feel some compulsion to misrepresent other people's beliefs. Now, I accept that you have a habit of misrepresenting other people's beliefs. I actually am. Before I became aware of Mr. Shakir's background and biases I was critical of Israel even thinking of keeping him out of the country. Now that I'm aware of his background and HRW's irresponsibility in this case I've arrived at the conclusion that the Israeli government's position is reasonable. Again, I accept that you have a habit of misrepresenting my positions. I also realize that this is a product of your own lack of objectivity. Rubbish. Trump didn't blame Jews for the attacks. What he suggested is that the most obvious culprits (white nationalists/neo-nazis) may not have been responsible for the attacks, and unfortunately we've had incidents in this country where Leftists have been caught committing other acts of vandalism that they made other people appear guilty of committing. Lovely - misrepresenting other people's positions again. which again illustrates your non belief that human rights are Universal. You believe his defence of people means an agenda whereas it only means he believes that all people deserve a fair trail. Here we go again. I do believe that human rights are universal. On the other hand, the people who reject the UDHR in favor of the Cairo Declaration do not, do they? LOL - It is? That's not what I was complaining about, thank you. It certainly is. And what is "social justice", as if I need to ask? We all know Horowitz is a conservative and not some Leftist SJW. There's nothing wrong with that. Now you're misrepresenting the U.S. and Trump's positions. Some people are behaving like fascists in this country, and ironically it's the people on the Left with their thought and speech codes, disrespect for our democracy, violent intolerance of other people's beliefs and opinions, etc. This is one reason why I often look at the political spectrum as a circle, not a line, and that circle meets where the Far Left and the Far Right meet. There really not a lot of difference between the anti-Trump protesters who rioted in DC and Berkeley and the fascists they mimic. Then again, Mussolini was a socialist before he became a fascist and Stalin said there wasn't any difference between social democrats and fascists.
I never referred to your remarks as "drivel" - that is your word, not mine - and I do appreciate the time you took to respond to my comments. My assessment and/or opinion of your comments does not qualify as a personal insult. If you want to take them personally, however, that is entirely on you. You typed that into a quote and now it's YOU who is engaging in personal insults. You should be grateful that I don't report you to the moderators.
Like any government it has a military wing. You might want an unarmed Palestine- but you ain't a-gonna get one. You ain';t a-gonna get an unarmed Lebanon either. A disarmed Israel would be a far , far better idea- considering its history of brutality and irresponsibility.
Israel refuses entry to Human Rights Watch again https://electronicintifada.net/blog...il&utm_term=0_e802a7602d-9dc4b2284c-299180421
Well they are less subtle about their opinion of Human Rights workers in Kazakhstan file:///C:/Users/Me/Downloads/20140902_Abdelwahab-Elmessiri-Memorial-Lecture-Prof-John-Keane.pdf Can't have HRW censoring the work of Israel, eh?
While much is being made of Israel banning HRW or the US banning citizens from six Muslim dominated countries, here is a list of those countries banning Israeli Jews, background checks or not. http://www.dailywire.com/news/13066/heres-list-all-muslim-countries-ban-jews-michael-qazvini No Muslim country should be allowed into the UN or any international organization until they enter and embrace a more contemporary stance on human rights and freedom.
Oh Lord, it was not until this moment I realized it was moon. I would support Israel withdrawing from the U.N. that never did a good thing for Israel, since the 2/3rds General Assemble vote to partition the British area of Palestine into a Jewish State and an Arab State. I remember "U.N. Peace Keepers" told to leave by Sadat and the U.N. did. I remember U.N. personnel returning confiscated rockets to Palestinian terrorist. And Israel should just "give the finger" to the U.N. or maybe quit as the Japanese walked out of the League of Nations. And Israel can continue its' humanitarian works as Israel and not the U.N. I just learned they got a technical institution university in Ecuador. Moi The Oldman emoticon is gone r > g Forewarned is forewarned.
maybe if they put the weapons down and learned the concept of diplomacy. Right now they are too busy working on bombs an such.
Don't flatter yourself that I would ever wast time on any of your one liner hate, bait and personal attack posts as you provide yet another of same.
Good question. No. Israel has declared he cannot be admitted to Palestine. The Palestinians are people without rights and have been that way for 50 years in the West Bank. The intent is to keep them that way for eternity. This is due to the massive support in the US by Christian Zionists without whom we would not have this situation and they are supported by the US - more outwardly by the current government but has been by the Republicans since 1995 expressed by their law to move the US embassy to Jerusalem while Oslo was an ongoing process. The Democrats who originally were the most pro Israel are now moving towards the Palestinians seeing the oppression they are under and have been under for so long though there leaders still pretty much support giving Israel a free hand. Clearly no people with Democratic ideals which Human Rights is very much a part of could go along with such things.
I'm glad Israel is finally taking steps to end the entry of folks dedicated to it's destruction who will never fit into their Liberal Democratic Constitutional, pluralistic society. I urge them, and all right thinking nations to ban the entry of any persons from nations that whip women for getting raped.
Concentrate. The neoZionists are refusing entry to people who oppose the illegal squats- ergo- they are criminals barring entry to law-abiding folk.
So sad if that is the case, but at least in West bank international monitors are still present, because nobody's perfect and the IDF is no exception. I hope that Israel and Palestine would reach a concession and will have respective sovereign state coexisting peacefully side by side. On the other hand if this ideal notion be materialized, how could Israel that would be then Palestinian state would never attempt to destroy Israel, can you please give some insights?
Isn't the barred HRW regional director Omar Shakir, the same clown who previously campaigned against Israel and led BDS efforts? Human Rights Watch asked for permission for this clown to be able to work in the country and sometimes when you request permission, the answer in no. I'm not sure why this is such a great shock. The title of this topic should probably be corrected. The group was not banned and its Israeli and Palestinian employees are still be permitted to work in Israel and issue reports. And this group of clown's former senior military analyst, Marc Garlasco, revealed to be a collector of Nazi memorabilia?
BDS is designed to have Israel comply with international law. Israel does NOT comply with international law and acts in a criminal fashion instead. By barring people who DO act in accordance with international law by criticising Israel when it DOESN'T you have a situation wherein the bad asses are targeting the good guys- just as I said. If this ..er...revelation.. causes you to produce ' Nazi memorabilia ' comments in defence of Israeli crime then it's evident that your good ship Zion has no moral wind. So I repeat; Concentrate. The neoZionists are refusing entry to people who oppose the illegal squats- ergo- they are criminals barring entry to law-abiding folk.
It is not the ideal solution. A single-state solution is preferable to the two-state solution, with full voting rights and recompense to the refugees for their loss of entitlement. Otherwise, the two state solution could be arranged whereby the refugees that are from the area of Israel are granted a Right to Return to Israel, not dissimilar to right enjoyed by Jews but limited in the Arab cases to a genuine association with the actual land. The final option, which should be the easy option, is that there is no return for the Arab refugees. But Israel would have to accept that there will always be a seething public resentment with its neighbour. You can't just rob people and expect them to be fine about it.
That 'fascist regime' in Iran came about as a direct result of your greed for oil, your CIA-financed toppling of their legitimate democracy and the installation, again by the CIA, of a vicious US-puppet dictator, the Shah, and the subsequent revolution against his authoritarian rule. Don't whine about the problems which your country conspired to cause in the first place. It merely serves to make you look foolish.
*YAWN* Spare me your hypocrisy... You know who looks foolish, snake? The people who try to pretend that the fascists in Tehran aren't solely responsible for the nature and conduct of their regime.
who are these monitors you are talking about. People like HRW? Well the lack on any 'monitors' to protect the Palestinians is the reason why several years ago B'Tselem started handing out movie camera's to Palestinians so that they could take movies and prove what was happening to them. Of course now most people have cameras and that seems to be the main way that people can prove something. If they are able to get their camera to take a shot which proves something - not always the easiest of things to do in something which often happens in a split second but that was the reason why there was the recent trial of the medic who shot the injured and incapable man in the head. This had happened many times previously but this was the first time someone had managed to take a film. I think probably use of a camera is the main monitoring in Palestine and it is very limited. Well that was the Oslo deal and resulted in antisemitism almost disappearing in the ME. However your republicans decided that that was a no go and that they would end those negotiations by passing a law to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/104/s1322/summary That effectively was the US saying no to a Palestinian State. Ten days later Rabin was assassinated and that was the end of any state for the Palestinians although there has been play at talks. Since then so may settlers have illegally moved into the West Bank that the possibility of a viable congruous state for the Palestinians is nil. A couple of years ago Bennett told the Saban Forum that the intention was to annex most of the West Bank (62%) and to leave the rest as isolated islands for the Palestinians to exist in without rights for eternity. At this time those there were shocked and asked him if he really thought he could get away with that. Bennett said yes, it just needed a bit of time for people to psychologically accept it and from what I hear this idea has now become mainstay in the US. Why do you believe it is an 'ideal notion' that the indigenous population of a region gain self determination rather than be kept under military rule for ever? MP stunned by military trials of children 50 years they have endured this. You would find this satisfactory for yourself? Your children? Israel is the one who does the most killing. The Palestinians are the people who need the most protection. At the last 'talks' they suggested Nato act as a go between. That could make sure both people were safe. Israel of course refused. By the way I was listening to Chris Hedges today. He was talking about journalism and in the main journalists no longer take time to check their facts and just give what is wanted. How even if they were reporting the truth, the way they reported it manipulated it to produce the effect they wanted. He then mentioned Gaza and said that there was no ME monitor who if they had freedom would not talk of the crimes against humanity (or something|) which Israel committed there - he then elaborated - I am talking of the right wing in Israel, though I do not think there is much in Israel except the extreme right - certainly with power. In any case he said Israel's crimes against the people of Gaza was what people saw, that is what they believed but they knew it would be totally unacceptable to say that to an American audience and so they did not. May be you do not hear much truth about that part of the world in the US - or you may have a personal Interest - American Christian Zionists have more of less funded the settlement enterprise. Without them likely there would never have been anything to worry about and the situation would have been resolved long ago.
Sure. Hamas are the law abiders and the Joos are the terrorists! HAMAS EXECUTES PROMINENT COMMANDER AFTER ACCUSATIONS OF GAY SEX http://www.newsweek.com/prominent-hamas-commander-was-executed-after-accusations-gay-sex-432343 The joos made Hamas do this to make Hamas look intolerant... yeah, that's the ticket! Your brainy pal, looks very natural with that dumb look on his face.
