Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

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  1. Death

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    No prob.
     
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    Why would Israel expel its second class citizens and lose their economic contribution to its GDP? Most Palestinians alive today were either driven from the homes by greedy Jews in 1948 and 1967 or they are the ancestors of victims of ethnic cleansing. You didn't respond to the question how would you react if you were consigned to Gaza or the West Bank.
     
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    Israel honors and protects all its citizens.
     
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    What a silly thing to say .. even if it were true ? What has that to do with these honored citizens .. Used as human shields according to your definition .. committing War Crimes, Crimes against Humanity and Ethnic Cleansing ?
     
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    It is true.
     
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    Sure friend .. an honor to be used as a human shield by Israel .. If you say so but, I would rather not be honored in such a way .. thanks .. sounds a whole lot like the martyrdom of the Islamist extremists .. not wishing to be honored in that way either .. Each to their own but not my way thanks.
     
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    What evidence can you provide to support that claim?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel#Legal_and_political_status

    "Many Arab citizens feel that the state, as well as society at large, not only actively limits them to second-class citizenship, but treats them as enemies, affecting their perception of the de jure versus de facto quality of their citizenship.[258]

    "The joint document The Future Vision of the Palestinian Arabs in Israel, asserts: 'Defining the Israeli State as a Jewish State and exploiting democracy in the service of its Jewishness excludes us, and creates tension between us and the nature and essence of the State.'

    "The document explains that by definition the 'Jewish State' concept is based on ethnically preferential treatment towards Jews enshrined in immigration (the Law of Return) and land policy (the Jewish National Fund), and calls for the establishment of minority rights protections enforced by an independent anti-discrimination commission.[259]"
     
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    Day to day life in Israel. That’s proof. Unless of course a Hamas rocket land’s nearby.
     
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    How do you know that the "Arab citizens" of Israel aren't simply doing a bunch of baseless bitching??
     
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    Segregated schools?

    https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/israel2/ISRAEL0901.pdf (P. 7/139)

    "Nearly one in four of Israel’s 1.6 million schoolchildren is educated in a public school system wholly separate from the majority.

    "The children in this parallel school system are Israeli citizens of Palestinian Arab origin.

    "Their schools are a world apart in quality from the public schools serving Israel’s majority Jewish population.

    "Often overcrowded and understaffed, poorly built, badly maintained, or simply unavailable, schools for Palestinian Arab children offer fewer facilities and educational opportunities than are offered other Israeli children.

    "This report is about Israel’s discrimination against its Palestinian Arab children in guaranteeing the right to education."
     
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    Israel should not agree to any ceasefire. That will only give Hamas time to rearm. Constant warnings should be continued but military action against the Hamas terrorists should proceed on schedule.
     
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    The only genocide which has ever happened in Gaza was the Arab Muslims killing or driving out everyone else.
     
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    Sure -- No Genocide -- just Mass War Crimes - Crimes against humanity - Ethnic Cleansing --- That's still good enough for a one way trip to the Hague for Bibi .. Milosovic a small fry by comparison..

    as the Irish delegation to the UN stated "Hague too good for Bibi" .. and that was well prior to some of the nastier recent horror .. who some Jews .. are comparing to how the Nazi's treated the Jews ..

    Biden .. a self Proclaimed Zionist -- just vetoed the latest round of Ceasefire Resolution - History will not look politely on the complicity of Genocide Joe ..

    This is not a good look for the nation USV .. don't see what folks all so giddy about .. no worries .. never did care much for that old rule book anyway --- like this time the chickens are not coming home to roost . .. "Consequences" never thought of those though did ya ... throwing out the rule book .. when the book was made for US - A .. we the one's most to benefit from the book now being wagged around .. the tail wagging dog in both Ukraine and Israel .. but particularly in the case of Israel .. being the topic.

    Sucks when they not gonna play by our rules no more .. cause we threw out the book .. in every instance .. but, we used to be able to get away with it .. being the Sole Super Duperpower both military and economic .. the only game in town .. everyone wanted to play.

    Didn't need to send Carrier Battle groups to get nations to do what we wanted .. the vast majority would come running .. on bended knee to comply with our every wish .. wanting a spot in the VIP Line at the only club in town .. just whisper our desires all was needed.

    These are different times .. yet most still in the clouds ... dreams of the good old days that do not reflect current reality
     
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    All of our local Putinist are pushing the same fake propaganda lines. I wonder why that would be? Surely, that couldn't be part of a disinformation campaign, could it?
     
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    Indeed.
     
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    The word genocide is used by people who are engaging in holocaust inversion. Its a tactic created by the KGB to liken holocaust survivors and refugees from Muslim countries who fled to Israel for their lives as Nazis. Its designed specifically to smeer all Jews worldwide if they believe in forming a Jewish state to assure the state can not be used to persecute Jews.

    Make no mistake the term genocide is not used when Muslim nations exterminate en masse Muslims, Christians, Kurds, Zoroastrians, Bahaii, Amidyah Muslims. Its not used for what China is doing in Ughyr. Is not used for what Russia is doing, what happened in Rwanda, Burundi, Biafra, Nigeria, on and on. Its only used in regards to Jews and it believes Jews are the only ethnic-religious people in the world who should not have a state. It creates a double standard where 14 Muslim states exist in the Middle East alone and if then one Jewish state is created that is not allowed.

    It ignores the actual genocide of Jews throughout history and why as a result they returned to their original homeland to flee genocide. It depicts Jews who fled genocide as no different than Nazis. People who do this know its designed to trivialize the holocaust and insult the memory of dead Jews and their families.

    It ignores the population increase of Palestinians since 1948 that show if Israel was planning on genocide its done a piss poor job. More to the point when Assad killed over 600,000 people, the same genocide accusers didn't call him out.

    It is a disinformation tactic and what makes it dispicable is that it forces Jews like me to continually challenge it and then people like me are misquoted as if I am defending the death of Palestinians. The death of any Palestinian or Israeli is horrible. Exploiting those deaths to demonize Israel for existing as a Jewish state and mocking all Jews who believe in sufferage for our people is cowardly and exploits the deaths of innocent Palestinians. No the IDF did not and has never initiated attacks on Palestinians because they are Palestinian. It has and will continue to go after Hamas who use their citizens as shields to die. It is as much as freeing Palestinians from terrorists as it is the kidnapped Israelis or continuous attacks on Israelis by Hamas.

    What makes it even more pathetic is that the leaders of Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran openly support what Hitler did and advocate the exact same extermination of Jews worldwide.

    The people on this board who exploit this word attack all Jews not just Israelis in a spineless manner.

    https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion?

    utm_campaign=antisemitism&utm_medium=socialmedia&utm_content=denialthroughauschwitz20210105&utm_source=twitter

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB120147388696520647

    https://fathomjournal.org/holocaust-inversion-and-contemporary-antisemitism/
     
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    The Armenian ‘genocide’: The 1915 massacre Biden just recognized - The Washington Post
    Thirty years after the Halabja Genocide: Iraq Still Punishes the Kurds | The Washington Institute
    IRAN'S BAHA'IS: SOME CALL IT GENOCIDE - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
    Who are the Uyghurs and why is China being accused of genocide? - BBC News
    Ukraine files genocide case against Russia at UN's top court | AP News
    Rwanda genocide of 1994 | Summary, Background, Deaths, & Facts | Britannica
    Burundi Genocide Survivor: Running Eases Mind : NPR
    "The Nigeria-Biafra War: Genocide and the Politics of Memory" by Chima J. Korieh (marquette.edu)
    Why the West Ignores the Nigerian Genocide | Opinion (newsweek.com)

    This is sad. His entire point was hinging on this being true. But I don't think it matters.

    For those who support Israel, their beliefs about Israel are religious even if they are atheist. For them, reality doesn't exist when it comes to Israel. Right now, I'm sure an Israeli supporter is screaming, "See! Death was right! No one calls those things genocide! Complete hypocrisy!"

    An Israeli supporter will simply ignore reality and what's written will say what they want, even if it's the exact opposite. They will read a sentence and believe it says the exact opposite of what it actually says. Israelism is a religious cult.
     
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    The deaths in Palestine that you refer to as genocide are in fact the intended result of Hamas policy.
     
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    The reality is that all the deaths in the Gaza Strip are the responsibility of Hamas. Genocide is demanded in the Hamas charter. Hamas does not care if those killed are Israeli or Gazan.
     
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    The reality is that all the deaths in the Gaza Strip are the responsibility of Hamas. Genocide is demanded in the Hamas charter. Hamas does not care if those killed are Israeli or Gazan.
     
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    The reality is that all the deaths in the Gaza Strip are the responsibility of Hamas. Genocide is demanded in the Hamas charter. Hamas does not care if those killed are Israeli or Gazan.
     
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    I couldn't have asked for better proof of how supporters of Israelism ignore reality. I never mentioned Palestine in my post - not once. I guess that doesn't matter to a believer, because reality doesn't matter to a follower of Israelism.
    Here is more proof, spammed 3 times. No reaction to what I wrote. It's as if what I wrote didn't exist and the someone put his own alternate reality in its place.

    Many supporters of Israel have become cultists.
     
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    The thread title is: "Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza."
    Game. Set. Match.
     
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    :roflol:
    The alternate reality of Israeli cultists.
     

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