Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Tank shells were used two days after the start of the siege to obliterate Israeli hostages housed in a small house
     
  2. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Look it up yourself. The IDF confirmed that the settlers shot the Palestinians in their own home
     
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    LOL you don't think Russian citizens would be bombed if they start WWIII? Are you so naive that you think your safe if America starts WWIII. I've never seen so much BS in a post.
    Bottom Line:
    Palestine Govt started a war brutally murdering innocent citizens of a sovereign state.
    Palestine Govt committed war crimes day 1 and continue to this day.
    Palestine Govt took hostages another war crime.
    Palestine Govt actually calls for genocide of Jews in their constitution.
    Palestine Govt kills gays and transexuals
    Palestine Govt doesn't allow womens rights
    Palestine Govt doesn't allow free speech
    Palestine Govt doesn't want a 2 state solution
    Palestine Govt could end this today by surrendering and releasing hostages.
    Palestine Govt uses its citizens as shields and you and your friends to spread their propaganda as seen in this thread
    You and your friends have lost your morale compass. Bottom line you either support fighting terrorism or you support the terrorist, this isn't any more difficult than that. It's becoming very clear which side you and your friends in this thread are on and what you really support.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure they were. The IDF purposely killed citizens of Israel. Ridiculous.
     
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    Your claim. Defend it. You can’t.
     
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    Initially Israel thought Hamas was a charity and Israel supported them. That misconception did not last for long as the true terrorism objectives became clear. There is no way that Israel would knowingly support a terrorist organization. Your claim is ridiculous.
     
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    Where are your sources? It's not my claim. It is well documented.

    In a 2019 Likud party meeting, Netanyahu gloated to his compatriots: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy — to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
     
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    LMAO-- so much B.S., that you need bring in your own B.S., about "World War 3"-- which I never say, and would be ridiculous to assume was my meaning-- but which you insert twice, to try to bolster your criticism of my post? Now that's funny!
     
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    Your sources are garbage. Israel does not support organizations which are dedicated to the eradication of the Israeli Constitutional Republic.
     
  11. Josh77

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    Sources??

    In a 2019 Likud party meeting, Netanyahu to his compatriots: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy — to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
     
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    What’s source of that quote? Putting two separate quotes into a single quotation is dishonest.
     
  13. Josh77

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    It is in the beginning of the first article I posted, which apparently you did not even bother looking at. Here is another part of the same article:

    Hamas has become a convenient foe for Israel, in contrast with the diplomatic success of the Palestinian Authority. In a 2015 interview, Israel's Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich explained that Hamas’s militancy, and therefore its illegitimacy on the world stage, was a boon for his government’s political strategy.

    “The Palestinian Authority is a burden, and Hamas is an asset,” Smotrich said. “It’s a terrorist organization, no one will recognize it, no one will give it status at the [International Criminal Court], no one will let it put forth a resolution at the U.N. Security Council.”

    There are links to further sources backing up the arguments in that article.
     
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    2015?? I thought tour point is ghat Netanyahu was financing Hamas. What happened to that fiction.

    That proves nothing except to confirm the understanding by Israel that Hamas is a terrorist organization. Additionally the PLO has proven to be supportive of Hamas as well.
     
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    Did you miss the quote from earlier???

    In a 2019 Likud party meeting, Netanyahu to his compatriots: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy — to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

    Like I said , the article has links to relevant further sources. Looks like you haven't gone through any of it, just stamping your foot and shouting "no!"

    And The PLO and Hamas were pretty much enemies, with Hamas going so far as killing members of the PLO. But, of course with Israel slaughtering Palestinian civilians, the whole "enemy of my enemy" concept is going to kick in big time. So, yeah. No ****, Sherlock. I'm sure many countries will be allying with the Palestinians soon. Turkey is threatening to, as is Algeria. Yemen is already firing missiles. And as Israel's brutality continues, more and more will join in, and allies will become alienated. The US government is already far less enthusiastic than they were after the October 7th attack.
     
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    Where is the proof that Israel is transferring money and supporting Hamas? There isn’t any. Your reluctance to repost the link is telling. Any claim that Israel is supporting Hamas to enable Hamas to kill innocent Israeli citizens is ridiculous.

    Here are the quotes:

    Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” he told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

    You combined these into one statement enclosed by quotation marks. This is dishonest. Now that your dishonesty hax been established I want nothing more to do with you.
     
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    Here are the original articles:
    https://www.analystnews.org/posts/how-israel-helped-prop-up-hamas-for-decades
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
    https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-...-strategy-to-keep-palestinians-divided-583082

    Here is a story in 2018 about Netanyahu defending his position of having Qatar send funding to Hamas:
    https://www.france24.com/en/20181111-netanyahu-defends-qatari-cash-infusion-gaza-0

    Here is a story where the Israeli President Isaac Herzog talks about how he views ALL Palestinians as Hamas, and talks about how "Hamas has long offered Israel an alibi to avoid abiding by its supposed commitment to Palestinian statehood".
    https://theintercept.com/2023/10/14/hamas-israel-palestinian-authority/

    You have yet to offer up any material supporting your point of view. I have posted several, with links within them linking to other sources. Do you have anything? Anything at all?
     
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    Already provided evidence that you ignore in your desperation
     
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    Already provided evidence that you ignored in your desperation
     
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    And your internet “source” provided no evidence.
     
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    And your internet “source” provided no evidence.
     
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    LOL let us know when the terrorist abide by any international law, I'm certain that really bothers you. lol
     
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    OK Mr. Israel bombed a hospital, I stand by my entire post.
     
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    As you simultaneously verify it, as being just nonsense-- by addressing me, with a false claim. How appropriate. It makes it so easy to know, that your claims can just be assumed to be garbage. If that is not the case, then back up your clear insinuation here, that I ever stated, that Israel, for certain, bombed a hospital. (They did, however, bomb ambulances).
     
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    To argue in favor of the US and Canada taking them in would change my whole outlook on this war. If I see that starting to happen I will change my position on this war for sure.
     

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