Israeli study offers strongest proof yet of vitamin D’s power to fight COVID

Did you?

 

I have gotten plenty of advice from my doctor regarding low Vitamin D levels and how it contributes to disease. Not surprising a low Vitamin D level results in more serious cases of Covid.

 

It does not claim the degree to which low vitamin D might be causal.

This is a retrospective study that points to a correlation, not a cause. As with studies that find correlations, there needs to be a study designed to determine what the cause is, what the remediation might be, etc.

This is a big deal to me, because it is a mistake being made over and over again by reporters and by people reading studies. And, it certainly is not limited to medical studies.

This is just a comment on the study and its interpretation.

It's always good to be as healthy as possible, and that does include vitamin D, of course.

 

Once again, the study shows a correlation, not a causation.

There may well be a causation, but the study can not show that.

As mentioned before, this is a study of other studies of patients - not a study of individuals.

It could be that people are showing up in those hospital studies with COVID because they have one of the diseases that gives low vitamin D, but also makes them highly vulnerable to COVID.

 

And again, the study highlights the low rates of Vitamin D resulting in more serious Covid cases. Typically, if you have one of those diseases where vitamin D is diminished, you have those levels checked by your Doctor and are advised to take the correct supplementation.

 

The study was linked in the article, in the OP. I had to separately link it for you because you seemed to have missed it when making your beginning posts in here.

Once again, if you feel the study is crap, that is your opinion.

 

When people show up at the hospital they may or may not have had various diseases diagnosed or remediation for those illnesses prescribed and followed. For those other diseases, I don't even know if prescribing vitamin D is called for, as solving the underlying disease is really the focus. For those other diseases, low vitamin D is a result, not a cause.

They showed up, because they were sick. This study did nothing to determine causes.

 

How do you that scenario was at play in Israel? My doctor prescribed me a Vitamin D to help a disease. I get my levels checked every year and supplement when needed.

 

And it could be that monkeys fly out of your butt. Yes it's a retrospective study but they appear to have accounted for bias in their observations. I'm not a scientist so I can't say how effectively this was accomplished. However, they were able to make predictions of severe illness based on vitamin D levels. That's more than enough evidence to justify taking a perfectly harmless vitamin. If you are low on vitamin D then spend the $10 and get a bottle of supplements. They might save your life.

 

You are incorrect. Both univariate and multivariable analysis were performed. Multivariable analysis is used to isolate the studied subject, 25(OH)D in this case, from confounding variables as much as possible. The assertion “nothing” was done in this study to determine “cause” is not true. It is true this study cannot verify causal relationships on its own. But it certainly did “something” to eliminate confounders like comorbidity diseases you describe. In essence it eliminates “causes” like comorbidity diseases by isolating Vit D as an independent correlate. The next step is studies determining if Vitamin D has the same effect on immune response regulation as it does in other respiratory viral infections. No causal relationship can be assured until a physiological pathway is observed and described. But based on the fact Vitamin D is known to have a causal effect on immune response regulation in other viral infections it’s only a matter of time.

From the study.

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It's absurd to claim I'm veering off in a small paragraph that includes a quote from the article in the OP.
And as I noted. The researcher says those things that you are quoting. But you're ignoring that basically the peer reviewers are placing their doubts.
So you can haul in all you want what the researcher claims, the article still contains the doubts of the peer reviewers.

Exactly what would you think somebody means when promoting home elixers as a remedy against covid? Read between the lines, and stop being so naive. People even took hydro peroxide as a remedy before. Them lot exists. People are crazier then you think, and it's not just Putin. I absolutely don't see this ggot debunked just because I could not exactly quote somebody here in this thread to your liking.

 

What's absurd is your gnat sized attention span. I was addressing a focused question that YOU POSED! Yeah I know I'm being trolled, so go ahead and have the last word. I'm not wasting any more time on trolls (in this thread).

 

!! I should have read deeper than I did! It looks a little more complex than I represented.

But, the conclusion is still the conclusion. And, the study is still retrospective rather than prospective. And, it still identifies a correlation, not causation.

 

Agreed. When I have time I’ll show ya’ll the information we already have on the physiological mechanisms by which vitamin D regulates the immune system We have plenty of information to conclude low vitamin D would causally negatively impact immune response regulation during Covid infection.

No, it’s not in this study. It’s in years worth of studies on Vitamin D and viral infections.