It always cracks me up when the left is referred to as 'radical'.

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That was clearly what he meant given the context of his speech in which he was talking about the Obama agenda.
     
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    LOL, so now you're a mind reader....( I don't think so) But I see where you'd get that you can't take $itch's word for anything..
     
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    You can also take the common sense approach. What else would it mean? We must make Obama motionless? That makes no sense at all.

    The only logic you can get out of that statement is to stop his agenda which republicans clearly opposed.
     
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    Which clearly is not in the best interest of Americans ..
     
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    You believe that only the liberal agenda is in the best interest of Americans? God help us.

    But, that has little to nothing to do with what he said. Clearly he was talking about Obama's agenda because no other interpretation makes any sense.
     
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    57 genders, 53 states, 13 or more Supreme Court justices. Minimum income for everyone.

    Yeah, the left has moved further left and the right is right where it was. Liberals have become extreme, not the right.
     
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    No, I believe bipartisanship is in the best interest of Americans...certainly not a Republican only agenda..

    He hasn't done squat so far.


    :) I said, Of course you can't take The $itch's word for anything :)
     
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    Wouldn't Obama's agenda be a democrat only agenda?
     
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    The left today would make Castro jealous.
     
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    NO, Obama constantly talked about bipartanship to get things done for Americans.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Talking about and doing are two different things.

    He passed Obasmacare with no republican input which Politifact awarded him the liar of the year.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    NO, Obama constantly talked about bipartanship to get things done for Americans.



    Yes, he talked about it but with the leading Republican %itch telling Republicans that their Number One duty was to stop Obama it was a hard road....guess Republicans didn't want Americans to have affordable health care..

    A. Shows his power.

    B. Shows Republicans didn't want to even attempt to get Americans affordable health care.
     
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    Affordable health care and Obamacare are not necessarily the same thing. Many, and I know some of them, who were the poorest were required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty, but could not afford to use it because of the copay.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yes, he talked about it but with the leading Republican %itch telling Republicans that their Number One duty was to stop Obama it was a hard road....guess Republicans didn't want Americans to have affordable health care..



    It isn't perfect but it has helped millions of Americans get health care...if Republicans didn't like the Affordable Health Care Act they COULD HAVE had some input or come up with a better plan..., they REFUSED to help Americans get more affordable health care....

    Political Tenets:

    Republicans- I got mine, screw you.

    Democrats- I got mine, now let's help others get theirs..
     
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    Except it is not affordable for those most in need.
     
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    Would you stop repeating that fake news over and over? It doesn't make it right and damages your already damaged credibility.

    Factcheck:

    McConnell: We need to be honest with the public. This election is about them, not us. And we need to treat this election as the first step in retaking the government. We need to say to everyone on Election Day, “Those of you who helped make this a good day, you need to go out and help us finish the job.”

    National Journal: What’s the job?

    McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

    National Journal: Does that mean endless, or at least frequent, confrontation with the president?

    McConnell: If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if he’s willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him.

    National Journal: What are the big issues?

    McConnell: It is possible the president’s advisers will tell him he has to do something to get right with the public on his levels of spending and [on] lowering the national debt. If he were to heed that advice, he would, I imagine, find more support among our conference than he would among some in the Senate in his own party. I don’t want the president to fail; I want him to change. So, we’ll see. The next move is going to be up to him.
     
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    Yes those are on the extreme side.
    What you call universal health care (ACA) is a disaster to public health. Just look at results.
    What you call an "assault weapon" is no different than a standard ranch rifle other than appearance.

    So yes, putting people on meds and attacking constitutional rights based on a shape is radical.
     
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    Regulation doesn't equal 'attacking constitutional rights'. If a law is unconstitutional, someone will challenge it and SCOTUS will shoot it down.

    ACA has been a godsend to me, and the ACA was intended for my demographic. THe results were fantastic to most who signed up for it.
    ACA has withstood all constitutional challenges, noting the court was 5/4 conservative when that happened.

    The faults of the ACA dems say it can be fixed, but repubs will deny anything with Obama's name on it.

    Oh, I dunno, with the ARs the .223 caliber shoots bullets that are generally smaller, lighter and faster than traditional hunting calibers and deadlier for longer distances, so there's that. See, it's designed to kill as many people as quickly and efficiently as possible, so that doesn't sound like a deer hunting policy to me. But, that's not the main issue....

    So you hunt deer with a rifle that has a 30+ bullets in the clip?

    That's the issue. Limit the clips to what a hunting rifle can hold, 3 - 5, etc., and perhaps we'll have something we can agree on, legislatively.

    Personally, I'd like to see semi-automatics banned except for military and police, etc ( ATF, FBI, etc ) but that's just me. But, compromise is inevitable.
     
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    You are incorrect. It has already lead to disarming law abiding citizens. Your data on the AR is far from correct. There is zero difference from a standard ranch rifle except for appearance. Gun control is not from a position of concern for human life.

    The ACA has resulted in record profits for pharm companies and record levels of illness. American illness is not the result of a drug deficiency. Passing out drugs like candy is already showing results.

    It is odd that we have two closely related topics. We are medicating people for depression and anxiety and when the patient builds up a tolerance, more meds are prescribed. Suicidality is a common side effect. We are pushing more drugs that cause people to devalue human life, but attacking guns that have never caused anyone to commit acts of violence.
     
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    The second amendment wasn't about hunting.

    And 223 has been a decently popular hunting caliber for 30 years or more. I know. My uncle let me shoot his 30 years ago. And not an AR. Wood stock bolt action 223.
     
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    Time to raise that white flag and admit you were wrong. We will be waiting.
     
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    People on the left want to remove the police and prisons. Not all of them but if you can judge all Republicans by some people we can do the same for Democrats and yes you implied Republicans in your OP.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yes, he talked about it but with the leading Republican %itch telling Republicans that their Number One duty was to stop Obama it was a hard road....guess Republicans didn't want Americans to have affordable health care..

    It isn't perfect but it has helped millions of Americans get health care...if Republicans didn't like the Affordable Health Care Act they COULD HAVE had some input or come up with a better plan..., they REFUSED to help Americans get more affordable health care....

    Political Tenets:

    Republicans- I got mine, screw you.

    Democrats- I got mine, now let's help others get theirs..




    I wasn't wrong....and who is this "we" you mention, got a split personality or just can't speak without backup?
     
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    Lil Mike just proved you wrong in his above post which you chose to ignore.
     
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    LOL, I'd hardly use him as a purveyor of truth..
     
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