Italy: Berlin Attack Suspect Shot Dead

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WASHINGTON — Italy’s interior minister says the Tunisian man suspected of the terrorist attack in Berlin has been shot dead in Milan.Details are expected shortly when Marco Minniti holds a news conference. - Source

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This story is just breaking. Details are still sketchy.

 

Evidently Amri slipped right through all the big "dragnets" and police interception networks in Germany and France before finally being stopped by very alert, very professional police in a suburb of Milan, Italy.

Link:

http://www.ansa.it/english/news/gen...nce_1a048fb1-ec68-4a90-b7d4-19d6df8bcda8.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/23/world/europe/berlin-anis-amri-killed-milan.html?_r=0

. "Oof. Und wohin ging er...?"

 

How did he manage to flee across the German border into Austria or Switzerland, then across their border with Italy without being picked up by border guards?
Oops silly me, I clean forgot European nations don't have borders any more..

"A nation without borders is not a nation"- Pres. Ronald Reagan

 

Who needs secure borders anyways they just keep people apart. We need to build more bridges not walls.

 

And yet doing away with them all seemed such a good idea at the time? At least to the megalomaniacal jobsworths and self-serving pen-pushers of Brussels it obviously did! Those of us who live in the real world thought it was a bloody daft idea.

 

The evidence so far is that Amri easily made it out of Germany, AND France, and then on to Milan where a police checkpoint intercepted him.

But you ask HOW he managed to do it...? At the mythical 40,000-foot level, I'll quote an old Sicilian proverb -- "Fish stinks from the head down!"

."Aber...aber, unsere wunderbare pan-Europa braucht mehr INKLUSIVITÄT!"

 

It's all too 'pat' to have not been contrived.

 

. "You Germans and French can go back to sleep now... we've GOT this!"

 

Shot dead never to be heard from, just like Bin Laden was killed, taken out to sea and sunk to the bottom.
We are a gullable lot

 

Don't know if you are being sarcastic or not, but I will say that Europe without borders would probably work just fine, UNTIL muslims got involved! Then it became a sh%t hole. Muslims screw up every country they go to. Therefore, borders and border security is absolutely necessary!

 

The Islamic religion, which by definition controls every aspect of its billions of believers' lives, requires them to sacrifice their lives in bloody attacks for the betterment of the religion and ridding the world of non believers. If that's not the definition of a death cult I don't know what is.

 

It's something, isn't it? It's difficult to fight someone who enjoys death more than life!

 

I heard that the terrorist had taken a shot at the policeman who stopped him to ask for his ID. Hope that policeman is OK, anyone hear this?

I never post fake news !

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/19/europe/turkey-russian-ambassador-shot/

CNN reports that the Turkish gentleman who sent Ambsdr Karlov to the promised land is 22 year old Mevlut Mert Altintas born 1994 in the the Turkish town of Soke. See the link above.

 

I'm just surprised no ones yet accused the Italian police of racial profiling ... Christmas miracle?

 

America's alt-right already hates Europe. Sorry for their loss of this boogeyman who could have stirred up much fear in their parlors at night. They crave fear— it's the powerful drug that keeps them going.

 

The complete story has some bigger "?" too ...

#1
The whole thing has nothing to do with the refugees, because Amri came from Tunisia and ultimately it is not a big problem for Tunisians with visa to enter. Sure, he was illegally submitted, but not with the refugee wave since he had been here for four years in an Italian prison for arson! Actually he was then to be deported from Italy to Tunisia, but de facto was only dismissed after jail and went instead via France to Germany.

#2
The Amri could not be deported to Tunisia, neither by Italy nor by Germany, because Tunisia first denied that he was a Tunisian is the smallest problem! If any country wants to push somebody to the USA because the country says that he is US citizen, then does not go either.
The corresponding demands of the right after stricter laws is thus nonsense and brings nothing!

#3
But was really annoying, is the fact that existing laws in Germany (specifically §58a) with Amri despite all knowledge were not applied and which had prevented this assassination in Berlin.
Amri was able to travel without problems inside Germany and §58a gives the state a bunch of possibilities with a reasoned suspicion to be a danger as it already existed here to minimize the danger to near 0.00 as there are for example:

- Travel ban from the city or the county!
- Daily reporting duty for the person at the police station
- Communication prohibition via the Internet and use of a C-Phone
- Postal monitoring
- Telephone monitoring
- ...

The list is long and a single violation of such a condition directly means imprisonment! Problem: None of it was pronounced and imposed, despite the clear classification that Amri is a dangerous person!

#4
And that raises the well-founded question of why! Incompetent authorities, idiotic clerks who do not want to see a danger or deep "left" idiots at the work and so on can now be called as a reason ... but I believe there was something else and this is where I get angry if really true!

In some media reports so completely casually told, that Amri was observed by the security services, specifically, for example in Berlin, but one had here only the strong suspicion of a relationship with the drug mafia as a result and the monitoring drove down again.
From these monitors, for example, services were also aware that he was visiting a strongly suspicious mosque, which is nevertheless very Islamist and has long been observed and where still already was a police raid done. As I said, this was reported quite casually in the media ...

H E L L O ????
Suspicious to be involved in drug mafia business and still being not arrested with this complete background as all others normally? Mmmh...
Could it be that our secret services used him by monitoring him secretly to identify terror groups and threats in Germany and let him do and travel and no §58a issue out of it too?

If this is true, then have heads to roll in the services, because then they showed total incompetence! Any shopping mal security does their job better as you!

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This is Europe and not USA mess ...

 

No, Islamic terrorism is the problem of all of western culture.

Hopefully European people wake up and realize these are not families of poor downtrodden people, they are living weapons sent right into your streets and houses.

 

Aw, c'mon, Shades... this murdering terrorist pulled a gun out of his backpack and shot one of the Italian police officers in the shoulder. Then the other policeman shot and killed Amri. What would you have had the police do instead? Just stand there and wait until this Islamo-Nazi killed them both?!

I agree with you about bin Laden, but this is quite different.

With bin Laden, the Obama regime produced no body, no blood samples, no DNA, no pictures, no proof at all, and they threw his body out in the ocean where nobody was going to find it. Complete crap, like so many other things that have been characteristic of Obama.... I'm certain the Italian authorities will release conclusive proof that the Islamo-scum the Milan police officer killed was Amri... just give it a few days.

 

And you got the not unimportant message that this person is not one of the sooooo bad refugee wave, because was still in jail for 4 years at this time?
So, sorry to say ... but here the services of Germany failed to use existing law to prevent it, not a matter of dangerous refugees ... of what are btw alone over 40% no Muslims and so no possible Islamic terrorist!

 

Another intelligent posting. Can you add anymore brilliance to your statement?

 

Such a pity that they shot and killed him, I'm sure the Germans would have enjoyed a cozy little chat with him.

 

Too bad they killed him; i'm sure the authorities would have loved to have grilled him for information.

 

Well written...
Maybe some wondering at some people that not only US policemen shot scum sometimes ... even their gun is not being so loose in holster as in the US. in Germany it was in 2015 a number of 10 which were shot to death by policemen ...

 

He sounds like he confirmed his place in scum-bag-dom in Tunisia and then Italy even before murdering the good people in Berlin, but I have to admit that his leaving his identity papers in the truck is more than odd. He cannot have been that stupid.

My guess of the day is that he wanted to flee the scene but still get "credit' for the slaughter. But putting the papers under the seat (why do that?) and then forgetting them ... ?

 

The "problem" for German authorities is that the Tunisians refused to take scumbag back after he was ordered deported form Germany.

I hope that President Trump's ICE director, if faced with the same dilemma, and he will be, will shove the deportee out of an airplane over the soil of the deportee's native country, with or without a parachute depending on the reason for his deportation.

Alternatively, they can put him in a kayak in international waters near his home country and hand him a paddle.

But releasing him back into American society because the Tunisians won't take him back? Uh, no.