It's A Conspiracy I tell ya & Corona Virus, and future such events

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    I've coined a truism about the three Bs... it usually relates to international relations but it can also work in domestic.

    Bribe
    Blackmail
    Bomb

    First bribe... if that doesn't work, blackmail... if that doesn't work, bomb !

    This has happened during the covid vaccine push... many have been bribed to take it... then blackmailed to take it and if that doesn't work, then the bombing will begin. Same three B tactic can be used against state/local politicians who oppose mandatory covid masks, vaccines and lockdowns.

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    Sounds paranoid.

    I'm glad to see ideological crackpot politicians belatedly embracing and promoting medical science in the interests of the American people.
     
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    Here's an example of a bribe.... there have been other bribes I've seen so far... lotto tickets, cash, extra day off work, etc.

    Judge allows vaccinations in place of service hours for people on probation

    People on probation offered option of getting vaccine instead of finishing community service hours


    A judge in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, has offered some people on probation the option of getting the coronavirus vaccine instead of serving out court-mandated service hours.

    more info at links

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/judge-vaccines-baton-rouge-service-hours-probation

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/28/baton-rouge-coronavirus-vaccines-community-service/

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    What makes you do this? These stupid links are simple to find, numerous and always residing on low traffic conspiracy sites. What is your goal here? There are already significant numbers scared to take the vaccine from the actions of imbeciles, so what more are you wishing? Are you now trying to make people who have had the vaccines already in some sort of fear for their lives because some crazy conspiracy spammer has found the truf?
     
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    I suppose this came from a link I posted. Please show us where it is so that I can see the context.


    "Scare-mongering" is a compound adjective and needs a hyphen.
     
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    Ya think!

    Really? You, the defender of every single piece of garbage you post, want to actually see context? Since when has that stopped you posting any piece of random noise you find? And who is "us"?

    Wow, grammar police fail. It is defined as a single word in all dictionaries. Get lost with you bullshit "corrections", or are you so desperate to get at least one thing right?
     
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    So what. Is this pathetic observation somehow helpful for you? To actually get something right? It is one single word and that makes you wrong.
     
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    Off topic grammar police. Everybody's favorite!

    It wasn't a mistake with a missing hyphen.

    Why are you continuing this off topic horseshit?

    What makes you do this? These stupid links are simple to find, numerous and always residing on low traffic conspiracy sites. What is your goal here? There are already significant numbers scared to take the vaccine from the actions of imbeciles, so what more are you wishing? Are you now trying to make people who have had the vaccines already in some sort of fear for their lives because some crazy conspiracy spammer has found the truf?
     
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    And the moronic cut and paste spam comment. You aren't the spokesperson for "anyone" and when the likes of you suggest people are dumb for arguing with you, then that is off the scale irony.

    That has nothing whatsoever to do with my statement concerning YOU! Anti-vaxxers are colossal morons, responsible for resurgence in many diseases long since controlled.

    Anti-vaxxers wouldn't recognise truth if it was injected into them with a colonic irrigation pump!
     
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    There isn't a big picture and you ignored the substance of my post - again!

    What makes you do this? These stupid links are simple to find, numerous and always residing on low traffic conspiracy sites. What is your goal here? There are already significant numbers scared to take the vaccine from the actions of imbeciles, so what more are you wishing? Are you now trying to make people who have had the vaccines already in some sort of fear for their lives because some crazy conspiracy spammer has found the truf?
     
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    THERE is your major clue!!!!!!


    BULLSHIT!

    And a few paypal buttons, contribute buttons, business side-lines selling alternative junk. You are ludicrous if you cannot see the real incentive. YOU are part of the crowd that feeds this real disinfo, fake news and business generating traffic.
     
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    How ludicrously unscientific and just more of your cluster bombing horseshit on this forum!.

    "It might turn out to be true"!! Then again it will probably turn out to be false or even worse be a meaningless pile of legal crap foisted on us by idiots with no knowledge and more money than sense.
     
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    It isn't a theory, it's a money making lawyer making money from the gullible. As for seeing a problem, at what point do you EVER see what happens!? How can you fail to see how dumb the number of claimed deaths is? It is so tedious how in every case you dismiss official data. How many people do you think are in on your crazy nonspecific , conspiracy where supposedly the human race is being culled in the most insanely impractical way possible.
     
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    The summary for this video sure does summarize some of the likely logic behind what has probably been happening.

    ICU NURSE: "You're being lied to about COVID."

     
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    There have been responses to this crock previously in this thread, kindly address them.

    That is 100% proven bullshit. There are reasonably effective ways of treating SOME people and potential ways to restrict the virus with SOME people and NONE of this is being covered up but extensively researched and published. It is another layer of protection to go with vaccines.
     
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    Cherry picking and moving context.

    Boy you are one piece of work. I can't total up the number of posts you just completely bypass each time you cluster bomb the forum with your stupid links! This whole topic has become a big mixed up piece of crap.

    MEH!!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-lied-to-about-covid.591149/#post-1072866857
     
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    Cosmored/Fatfreddy88/Drifty/Scott/Rocky has a whole series of evasion tactics :-

    1. For images or video: "Nothing that's fakable can be used as proof as it might be fake."

    He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own images and videos. He will never actually prove it is faked or offer the number of people involved in such.

    2. For websites: "It's possible that your sites are genuine and it's possible that some public-relations agency created them to help fool the public. Something that may or may not be bogus can't be used as proof." Source.
    or
    "That's a disinfo site."

    He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own appallingly inept websites. He will never address any website that solidly refutes his claims. He never offers any proof that any website is "disinfo" or "public-relations".

    3. For Expert Testimony: "Only a person with a high background in photography would be able to deal with it "

    For "photography" insert anything. He is a layman on everything associated with space travel so uses this evasion tactic frequently. Basically if he doesn't understand it, it is ignored and of course the person providing the information must automatically be in on the moronic hoax.

    4. For Rebuttal: "...so we already know what you posted is sophistry. "
    or
    "I can't say I'm one hundred percent sure he's a paid disinfo agent but his behavior fits the profile perfectly."

    This enables him to completely ignore any response, which he routinely does anyway, but throws this in for effect. Needless to say, he will never offer anything to backup his ad hominem statement.

    5. Miscellaneous: ".anyone who sees it will see that he's just a paid sophist."

    This is probably the worst one of all. For this enormous diversionary statement, he gets to ignore every single thing written by an expert in almost every aspect of the Apollo Missions. He gets to ignore a concise website detailing debunks for almost all his total crap. He gets to ignore every post made where he always get his ass handed to him. The basis for this is his "credibility test".

    6. Credibility Test: "This calls for a credibility test. XXXXXXX maintains that the Chinese spacewalk was real and not faked in a water tank. Do you agree with him?

    This is where the spammer uses one of his pre-determined idiotic conspiracies or erroneous claims as the yardstick for a credibility test. He is the arbitrator of its provenance therefore anyone who disagrees with it can now be referred to as "discredited" and all their rebuttal can be ignored.

    7. When all else fails: "I think the rest are moot now that you`ve been discredited and there are a lot of clear anomalies that prove the footage ...."

    So when he routinely gets his claim debunked, it is "moot" because of "all the others". It never occurs to him that all the other evidence has been debunked and was also "moot" when it was addressed. When pushed to provide a list of items to address, at all costs he will not do this because it can be seen where they have all been debunked.

    8. Just deny everything: "I've never seen it debunked. I've seen people try to obfuscate it and then consider it to have been debunked." or "I can't see what you're referring to."

    He's never seen ANYTHING debunked? An utterly ludicrous statement that he uses based on his own inept layman understanding. His ignorance apart, he seeks to pigeon hole every single debunk into responses that he says are diversion, because he says so. Or, he simply denies seeing something that is completely irrefutably obvious.

    9. Idiotic Closes: "You'd get laughed out of the debating hall ..."

    or

    "you're about as impressive as the Black Knight in this video"


    The sheer irony of this is always lost on him. If ever there was somebody who behaved like the Black Knight - as his arm gets chopped off it's a "moot point" it would be this serial forum spammer. There is not a debating environment on this planet where this person would show up to. He knows more than anyone that he would get the floor wiped with his drivel.


    10. Divert/Obfuscate/Re-spam: This is where he avoids the item completely and gish-gallops away with repeated spam. Almost certainly he will keep avoiding the original claim.

    11. Never mind that - look over here: When this hopeless individual has exhausted his inept repertoire of responses comes his most used spam. He resorts to spamming his wall of crap and ignoring the main issue!
    "Anyway, there's a ton of proof that the missions were faked and zero proof that they were real."

    "This lame stand of your totally exposes you as a shill*"

    "It just makes you look like a horse's a-s and the viewers can see it. I don't see any point in my continuing to reiterate this."


    What a sad, sad liar this person is. They have been humiliated completely on dozens of subjects, thousands of times on Apollo, yet they spew this cut and paste hogwash almost every time.
    12. Credibility Referbacks: When this hopeless individual has no answers he often resorts to just one liners concerning previous bullshit "Credibility Tests".

    "You've already said some pretty lame things so your judgement is obviously flawed."

    "....said the Man who tried to obfuscate the clear evidence of the Chinese Spacewalk"

    13. Moronic Translations: This is the ridiculous post where he interprets his crazy viewpoint on something regardless of how many times it has already been addressed. It usually has some bearing on his equally moronic "Credibility Tests".
    "Translation: The proof that the Chinese spacewalk is so clear that I'll just look silly if I try to obfuscate it so I'd better avoid addressing it."



    This person has been doing all of the above across 100's of forums for (best guess) coming up to 17 years. He cuts and pastes duplicate posts, responses, key phrases and dismissal videos. He determines any one or more of the above and posts them out, then slams a huge post with repeated and debunked bullshit. There is simply no level of response that can get through to somebody who has terminal Dunning and Kruger syndrome.

    Spam, asked and answered already. Boy you are one piece of work. I can't total up the number of posts you just completely bypass each time you cluster bomb the forum with your stupid links! This whole topic has become a big mixed up piece of crap.
     
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    Ridiculous spamming across everyone of these idiotic corona virus threads - answered and ignored. You do this every time you get owned. You're like the kindergarten kid who everyone ignores, jumping up and down trying to get noticed. Anti-vaxxers are the scum that contribute to people getting killed.

    Cosmored/Fatfreddy88/Drifty/Scott/Rocky has a whole series of evasion tactics :-

    1. For images or video: "Nothing that's fakable can be used as proof as it might be fake."

    He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own images and videos. He will never actually prove it is faked or offer the number of people involved in such.

    2. For websites: "It's possible that your sites are genuine and it's possible that some public-relations agency created them to help fool the public. Something that may or may not be bogus can't be used as proof." Source.
    or
    "That's a disinfo site."

    He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own appallingly inept websites. He will never address any website that solidly refutes his claims. He never offers any proof that any website is "disinfo" or "public-relations".

    3. For Expert Testimony: "Only a person with a high background in photography would be able to deal with it "

    For "photography" insert anything. He is a layman on everything associated with space travel so uses this evasion tactic frequently. Basically if he doesn't understand it, it is ignored and of course the person providing the information must automatically be in on the moronic hoax.

    4. For Rebuttal: "...so we already know what you posted is sophistry. "
    or
    "I can't say I'm one hundred percent sure he's a paid disinfo agent but his behavior fits the profile perfectly."

    This enables him to completely ignore any response, which he routinely does anyway, but throws this in for effect. Needless to say, he will never offer anything to backup his ad hominem statement.

    5. Miscellaneous: ".anyone who sees it will see that he's just a paid sophist."

    This is probably the worst one of all. For this enormous diversionary statement, he gets to ignore every single thing written by an expert in almost every aspect of the Apollo Missions. He gets to ignore a concise website detailing debunks for almost all his total crap. He gets to ignore every post made where he always get his ass handed to him. The basis for this is his "credibility test".

    6. Credibility Test: "This calls for a credibility test. XXXXXXX maintains that the Chinese spacewalk was real and not faked in a water tank. Do you agree with him?

    This is where the spammer uses one of his pre-determined idiotic conspiracies or erroneous claims as the yardstick for a credibility test. He is the arbitrator of its provenance therefore anyone who disagrees with it can now be referred to as "discredited" and all their rebuttal can be ignored.

    7. When all else fails: "I think the rest are moot now that you`ve been discredited and there are a lot of clear anomalies that prove the footage ...."

    So when he routinely gets his claim debunked, it is "moot" because of "all the others". It never occurs to him that all the other evidence has been debunked and was also "moot" when it was addressed. When pushed to provide a list of items to address, at all costs he will not do this because it can be seen where they have all been debunked.


    8. Just deny everything: "I've never seen it debunked. I've seen people try to obfuscate it and then consider it to have been debunked." or "I can't see what you're referring to."

    He's never seen ANYTHING debunked? An utterly ludicrous statement that he uses based on his own inept layman understanding. His ignorance apart, he seeks to pigeon hole every single debunk into responses that he says are diversion, because he says so. Or, he simply denies seeing something that is completely irrefutably obvious.

    9. Idiotic Closes: "You'd get laughed out of the debating hall ..."

    or

    "you're about as impressive as the Black Knight in this video"


    The sheer irony of this is always lost on him. If ever there was somebody who behaved like the Black Knight - as his arm gets chopped off it's a "moot point" it would be this serial forum spammer. There is not a debating environment on this planet where this person would show up to. He knows more than anyone that he would get the floor wiped with his drivel.

    10. Divert/Obfuscate/Re-spam: This is where he avoids the item completely and gish-gallops away with repeated spam. Almost certainly he will keep avoiding the original claim.

    11. Never mind that - look over here: When this hopeless individual has exhausted his inept repertoire of responses comes his most used spam. He resorts to spamming his wall of crap and ignoring the main issue!
    "Anyway, there's a ton of proof that the missions were faked and zero proof that they were real."

    "This lame stand of your totally exposes you as a shill*"

    "It just makes you look like a horse's a-s and the viewers can see it. I don't see any point in my continuing to reiterate this."


    What a sad, sad liar this person is. They have been humiliated completely on dozens of subjects, thousands of times on Apollo, yet they spew this cut and paste hogwash almost every time.
    12. Credibility Referbacks: When this hopeless individual has no answers he often resorts to just one liners concerning previous bullshit "Credibility Tests".

    "You've already said some pretty lame things so your judgement is obviously flawed."

    "....said the Man who tried to obfuscate the clear evidence of the Chinese Spacewalk"


    13. Moronic Translations: This is the ridiculous post where he interprets his crazy viewpoint on something regardless of how many times it has already been addressed. It usually has some bearing on his equally moronic "Credibility Tests".
    "Translation: The proof that the Chinese spacewalk is so clear that I'll just look silly if I try to obfuscate it so I'd better avoid addressing it."



    This person has been doing all of the above across 100's of forums for (best guess) coming up to 17 years. He cuts and pastes duplicate posts, responses, key phrases and dismissal videos. He determines any one or more of the above and posts them out, then slams a huge post with repeated and debunked bullshit. There is simply no level of response that can get through to somebody who has terminal Dunning and Kruger syndrome.
     
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    Thank you for this impressive video....
    I listened to it two times today and shared it to several groups.....

    PROOF GATES FOUNDATION LOBBIED TRUDEAU INTO ACCEPTING MASS VACCINATION PROGRAM!!!

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/l3D6Ms8ZLezz/
     
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    You must be so proud.

    I would be amazed if Trudeau was not fully considering this already and almost amazed if somebody like Gates was NOT doing this. The problem is the clown anti-vaxxers look at it in a negative way, whereas normal people who are ok with vaccinations do not!
     
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    The super secret plan to kill off the wrong group? | PoliticalForum.com - Forum for US and Intl Politics



    Experts debunk the COVID-19 claims of Dr. Lee Merritt and the AFLDS (themilsource.com)
    Dr. Lee Merritt’s claims
    Claim 1: The virus is biologically manipulated (i.e., intentionally created) and purposely released. “Coronavirus is a naturally occurring, very benign virus that doesn’t even give most people the cold, but at the most it gives you the common cold. It doesn’t kill you, doesn’t make you very sick but what they’ve done is, [they’ve made it] the transmission device [for a deadly disease].”

    Breyta: Viral genomes are very complex and our understanding of how they work is simply not advanced enough to enable anyone to create one that would accomplish any specific goal. Viruses have been around longer than humans have, and they are very good at changing to take advantage of their environment. Fictional stories on television love to use the “engineered” virus trope because it makes good drama, not because it is realistic.

    Baxter: There is no evidence that the virus is intentionally created. This myth came from the fact that the Chinese virology center studying the previous dangerous coronaviruses SARS and MERS was in Wuhan, a city in China heavily hit by the initial virus. When an animal isn’t too impacted by a virus, they are a natural host to make mutations, as we’re seeing in humans who are immunocompromised giving rise to new variants. Viruses are quite capable of making themselves more adapted to spread and survive without needing humans. As habitats have grown smaller, greater mixing of animals and humans has occurred, resulting in diseases like Ebola, SARS and MERS spreading to humans. The more deadly, the more likely we can stop the spread. SARS-CoV-2 is more dangerous because it is less deadly and slower to spread.

    Claim 2: The coronavirus is the missile, and “the warhead is a little protein that they tacked on that attaches to your ACE2 pathway. Human beings have these ACE2 pathways … and when you put on this hook, what they call this ‘spike protein’, then it gets into these ACE2 pathways, which now is in your heart, in your lungs, in your testicle, in your brain, it can kill you.”

    Breyta: This is indeed how the virus works, it’s how many viruses work. It can indeed kill us, and it can make us sick for a long time. Viruses have been infecting animals this way for millions of years, and they change all the time – it’s up to us to change our behavior to protect ourselves. We have managed to control viruses in the past, we can do it again.

    Baxter: She believes the virus was let out purposely. It’s totally true that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein attaches to ACE2 receptors, just as many viruses including flu have spike proteins. Flu has two different types (hyaluronidase and neuraminidase, from which we get the “H1N1” or “H2N4” nomenclature). What’s interesting about it is that COVID-19 seems to almost exclusively start in the nasopharynx – the sinus passages – which is why loss of smell is so common. The ACE2 receptors are only the ones on the “ciliated epithelium” or the cells with wiggly brushes that move mucous. Rather than going into the bloodstream, it slowly makes copies of itself, with one theory being that breathing the copies in large numbers into the lungs from the nose is how it spreads once it enters through the nose. While ACE2 receptors are all over the body, it seems that it takes a large number of copies of the virus, or “viral load,” to activate the spread outside the upper airway. After it’s widespread, the most deadly part of COVID-19 is the body’s immune response, causing blood clots, dysregulation of glucose and blood pressure, and of course airways that don’t transmit oxygen properly.

    Claim 3: The coronavirus is a highly transmissible, very small particle virus that can’t be prevented by masks or plastic screens. In fact, masks are “damaging us in all sorts of ways.”

    Breyta: The coronavirus is indeed highly transmissible by breathing in the small virus particles, and the technology to filter items of different sizes is very good – we can separate bacteria from water by straining it through fabric and preventing people from getting sick with cholera. Masks are very effective at reducing our chances of inhaling coronavirus and becoming infected. Masks themselves pose far less risk than the virus. Not liking a mask is not the same as being harmed by a mask.

    Baxter: The SARS-CoV-2 virus is between 50–200 nanometers in diameter, but it rides on either respiratory droplets bigger than five microns or aerosols that hover right around that size. Surgical masks filter completely down to about five microns in size, which is why doctors go for N95 masks that are 5x better. However, even double thickness cotton has been found to significantly reduce the amount of particles breathed in. Part of why we know masks work is in places where masking goes up, hospitalizations go down and asymptomatic cases go up. The danger of SARS-CoV-2 is getting a heavy load of virus, which masks dramatically reduce. Masks aren’t damaging at all, even with asthma, as they filter oxygen not at all. Bad breath, unfortunately, can get trapped inside, but that’s about the extent of the risk.

    Claim 4: “[The virus in Wuhan and Lombardy] was probably a first-generation virus, and it did kill a bunch of people initially, but just like almost all viruses, as they passed to the human host, they got weaker. This is just an adaptive advantage, if you’re the Napoleon of viruses and you want to take over the world, you don’t want to kill every host you come across, you’re not going to spread. So what you do is you become less and less deadly, more transmissible, and that’s what this has done over time.”

    Baxter: This in general is true – and why SARS and MERS coronaviruses were easier to stop. However, if there were going to be mutations coming off one immediate deadly one, there should have been a bunch like we’re seeing now, whereas the genetic tracking doesn’t indicate that.

    Breyta: Viruses change in all kinds of ways when they get into humans, there is no predictable pattern of weakening. Sometimes they get stronger, sometimes they get weaker, sometimes they stay the same. This coronavirus has actually stayed the same in terms of the disease it causes, but changes in the genome are happening, and we don’t know what they mean for the future. We need to stay vigilant and take precautions.

    Claim 5: There have been treatments for viruses going back to the 1970s, antimicrobial agents or lysosomotropic agents (hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin). The reason these treatments have been hidden is because of the billion-dollar vaccine industry.

    Breyta: Viruses are incredibly variable and drugs that work for some do not work for all. This is true for the billion-dollar pharmaceutical industry.

    Baxter: This doesn’t make a lick of sense. If there were a cure for the common cold virus, someone would make billions. Pediatricians lose money on vaccines and by far the most lucrative drugs in the pharma industry are those that influence the immune system. Vaccines can be profitable, but in part because they were such money losers, many companies dropped their vaccine programs in just the time period she says. If we had a good antiviral against COVID-19, you’d have heard about it.
     
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    Experts debunk the COVID-19 claims of Dr. Lee Merritt and the AFLDS (themilsource.com)

    Dr. Lee Merritt’s claims


    Claim 6: Even without doing anything, COVID-19 has a 99.991% chance of survival, as opposed to a standard flu which is 99.992%. The biggest evidence of how sick you will get from the virus is your vitamin D level. If you take vitamin D, you will be safe.

    Baxter: It’s true that low vitamin D levels are correlated with worse outcomes, but the numbers for COVID-19 deaths and flu are both way out of whack. In contrast, [the US has] had 450,000 deaths from COVID-19, whereas even a bad flu season causes 50K deaths. Looked at another way, deaths from flu are about 0.2-0.5%, whereas deaths from COVID19 are 1-1.5%, not counting long-haul side effects and potential lifelong complications. For example, 19% of those who are hospitalized for COVID-19 develop diabetes, a new finding reported today. The CDC reports death rates every year from flu, this is easy to fact check.

    Breyta: We know that becoming infected with COVID-19 has many negative health impacts other than death, which means that even if you survive, you could be unwell for a very long time. No one knows exactly what will predict how sick you get from COVID-19. The only way to be safe is to not get infected.

    Claim 7: Vaccine makers have designed a piece of the virus’s mRNA to replicate in every cell of your body: the spike protein. That spike protein is actually creating the pathogen in your body. They first tested these types of vaccines on animals, specifically ferrets and cats. They started with other deadly coronaviruses: for SARS, they used cats, and for MERS, they used ferrets. What happened is all the animals died, but they didn’t die of the vaccine, what they died of was called immune enhancement or antibody induced enhancement or antibody dependent enhancement. When they gave cats the SARS mRNA vaccine, instead of killing the virus or weakening it, it encoded the virus on the cat’s DNA. So the virus came into the cat’s body like a Trojan horse unseen by the cat’s own immune system and then it replicated and killed the cat with overwhelming sepsis and cardiac failure. And that happened in the ferrets, that happened every time they’ve tried this, and we have never made it through an animal study successfully for this type of virus. We have never done this in humans before.

    Baxter: It’s true that these are the first approved mRNA vaccines in humans, but there are many successful approved mRNA vaccines for animals. They’re newer technology (meaning 20 years instead of 100), primarily limited by instability, not danger. As far as safety, we now have over 40 million COVID-19 vaccines given in the US and the rate of severe events is 0.2%. Seven cases are still under investigation. In contrast, we have had 450,000 deaths from COVID-19, whereas even a bad flu season causes 50K deaths. These are why mRNA vaccines are exciting: they are not part of an infectious particle, they are degraded by normal cell processes, so they don’t stick around, they can go right into cells, so the dose doesn’t get attacked before it gets into cells, lowering the amount that needs to be given.

    Breyta: Vaccines come in all kinds. Some are killed viruses, some are live but weakened viruses. Some vaccines are not viruses at all, but just a fragment of the virus that we know will teach our immune system to recognize the whole virus if it comes along. mRNA vaccines are this last kind of vaccine. Since some whole virus vaccines like live weakened viruses can change and grow, fragment vaccines are excellent options because they cannot change and grow.

    Claim 8: This vaccine was rolled out to distribution centers before FDA approval. In Nebraska, for instance, it was in the distribution center days before the FDA even said they were going to approve it.

    Baxter: No clue. The data was certainly well known to the Pfizer group prior to approval and they had been asked by the government to make doses ready to go as soon as it was approved. Certainly, no one was going to use the vaccines until they were approved, but if they already sent some out with a “do not use until” I personally don’t care. Supply chains, as we see currently, are a bitch.
     
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    You aren't qualified to judge either. That statement is as moronic as it gets. The idea behind expertise is that they do speak the truth. Millions say one thing, some fringe clowns say otherwise. Occam's razor. You are the checkmated black knight writhing limbless on the ground with a toothpick.

    Charlatans can sell out and see better ways to make a buck.

    The same things I said when you posted it the 5th time. He's a joke. He has literally over a hundred books - a sea of garbage. His noise generating mechanism is ongoing advertising. Needless to say his market are the gullible fools who believe conspiracies and eager to part with their money.
     
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