It's not an infringement? Even if it's your ox being gored?

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Based on what the anti-gun left wants and/or has been able to enact, our anti-gun friends believe the following restrictions do not qualify as an unconstitutional infringement on the right to keep and bear arms:

    - Registration of guns
    - Licensure of gun owners
    - Restrictive and subjective permits to buy/own
    - Restrictive taxation on ownership
    - Waiting periods
    - Mandatory education
    - Mandatory state supervision of commercial interaction
    - Banning certain examples of "arms" based on appeals to emotion

    I'd like our anti-gun leftist friends to explain how these restrictions or their analogues, if placed on the right to have an abortion, quality as an unconstitutional infringement of the right to choose.
     
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    We need to issue sex permits. Perverts need to be background checked and licensed before being allowed to have sex. Illegal sex needs to be eliminated. Assault penises need to be reduced to carbines. All sex must be registered and after the appropriate waiting period, each transaction monitored. Then we won't have to worry about abortions.
     
  3. TOG 6

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    Imagine the face-melting screams from the left if a woman had to get a $450 permit for an abortion, undergo mandatory sex-ed classes, wait three days, and then pay a $1000 tax.
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    And no abortions if they are a convict who served their time.
     
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    on a more serious level-AIDS has killed more people in the last 30 years than legally owned firearms in America. Before gays can engage in anal sex, they must get a health background check. If they have AIDS or another STD, they are banned from sex until that disease is completely eradicated. They can only have anal sex once every thirty days and cannot have multiple partners. They must inform the CDC before they bugger someone.
     
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    Can heteros engage in anal sex without the required medical background check?
     
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    I think it would be required of anyone. But I suspect it would be the gays who screamed the loudest about "infringements" on their rights
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    No response form the anti-gun left.
    Huh.
     
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    Of course not. Their canned spam answers aren't up to the task on a thread like this.
     
  10. Daniel Light

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    Im not anti-gun, but to be fair, people on the left have pushed for sex education and safe sex policies like free condoms and AIDS awareness public service messages (the equivalent of gun safety instruction). Abortions DO cost money for those getting them. Gun owners Do use abortion services.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    - Do you agree that the -requirement- by the state for a woman to undergo education on these issues before she can have an abortion infringes on her right to do so?
    - Do you agree that the -requirement- by the state for a person to undergo education on gun safety before they can own a gun infringes on their right to do so?
     
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    A medical procedure that does not affect anyone except the person getting it is far different from a weapon that can kill many
     
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    That is a statement of emotionalism and ignorance; not one of fact.
     
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    The left want professional victims. Thank God they are becoming more and more irrelevant and thank God for Trump.
     
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    It is cold hard factual information. No emotion is attached at all. That is something you have assigned to this argument
     
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    I think that in both cases it would be intelligent to get as much information as possible, but in neither case should a person be forced to do so.
     
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    No, that is not an accurate statement.

    A "medical procedure that does not affect anyone"? An argument could be made that it affects the person being terminated by the procedure, can't it? And a "weapon that can kill many" is a statement of rhetoric and not rationalism.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    To be fair, many gun owners have played the victim card when it comes to gun laws - they have been wailing about their rights being taken away when in fact they have been gaining rights
     
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    Every abortion ends a human life.
    Rarely does a gun purchase end a human life.
     
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    Tell this to gun owners in California, Maryland, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut...
     
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    Is it not a fact that one gun can kill many people?
     
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    Some states are losing their gun rights....
    It has been a constant battle to retain our gun rights. Luckily we are winning in most states.
     
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    What have they lost?
     
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    A gun has never killed anyone. They all sit peacefully until a human operates it.
     

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