Janitors' union called a strike outside Twitter, so Elon Musk cancelled its contract and fired the j

source: Janitors' union called a strike outside Twitter, so Elon Musk cancelled its contract and fired the janitors

As a contractor, probably a bad idea to have your employees picketing a customer's building. Oops!



Looks like they ****ed around and found out. I'm passingly curious what the reason was for firing the first 20. Shitty union inefficiencies?

Does anyone know: does the union pay the picketers?

 

Why would a sewer need janitors?

 

You guys are so salty that Musk bought your special clubhouse and opened it up to the rest of us.

 

Why were you banned from Twitter?

 

I wasn't. I only joined once Musk bought it and restored it to its free speech roots.

 

So it was never really closed to you, personally. Gotcha. I was on Twitter before their policies got way too political. I stayed during, and am still there with Musk in charge.

Your claim that it wasn’t open to you rings false.

 

Oh sure, I could have signed up, but I would have been locked / banned for saying any of dozens of things that upset liberals. It's a bit like Twitter was saying to people "sure, I guess you can come into our special clubhouse, but you're not allowed to talk any louder than a whisper, and if you say anything that offends anyone in here, we're going to kick you out." It made the whole thing so utterly unappealing that, while it wasn't completely "closed" to me, it was effectively closed as an avenue for expressing myself freely. Now, it's not so much, and the libs are super-salty over it, and I find that immensely funny.

You're free to have that ring you any way you like, but I think it's good that you recognize that their moderation policies "got way too political" for a while there. Musk is moving them in the right direction, and again, the libs are salty over it.

 

Obviously...
I have never used Twitter...
But, it sounds like a Fun time to join and see how many "followers" that I can get by spewing MAGA Conspiracies, Bigfoot Sightings, and "Lookie Here! Hunter Laptop" BS...
Apparently, in the Musk Era:
The best way for a New Twitter Account to amass "followers" is to go Full-Blown Lunatic Fringe...

 

Most Republicans on Twitter were never banned

 

A friend of mine did the same thing. I plan to do that soon.

 

If it's an authorized picket, then most companies pay their members about $50 per day and will literally fine them if they don't get on the picket line. They have no free speech rights if they're against the strike. In fact, unions crush the free speech of the people who pay them from their wages.

How stupid does this union have to be to go on strike? CA is literally flooded with illegals who will do this work and probably do it for less. Musk taught this union that the tail doesn't wag the dog.

If the union has a Twitter account, a blue check account, do you think they'll cancel it?

 

It will depend on which union group they belong to. For instance, in the AFL-CIO Union, they do have a fund for striking union workers in which they pay a per diem to each union member who strikes in that facility. It is called strike pay. Remember, guilds were the first unions and they allowed protection from unscrupulous business practices of the "rich" during the feudal system. For you and me, we would be called serfs and still dependent on the graces of the Lord of the manner in those days.

However, under contractual law, this may be an illegal firing and will bring more legal trouble for Musk.

https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rig... fired for,or picketing against your employer.

 

They are soooo mad about it lolol. I love it!

 

I think Musk can cancel the contract any time he wants which is what he did.

The janitors were striking for better pay which means the company with the janitors wasn't paying them what they thought they were worth. That janitorial company contracted with the extremely left wing Twitter who negotiated a contract that didn't allow the company to pay the wages the janitors now want.

If you want to see hypocrisy, check out this statement from the janitor company:

“Twitter doesn’t seem to understand how important it is to keep a clean house and respect the people who take out the trash,” it said.

This is San Francisco, the city with needles on the streets and poop maps. All of a sudden cleanliness and respect are important.

 

Contractual law would say differently. Once you sign that contract, then you are abiding to follow that contract. And conservative judges make this a particular point of law in most cases.

Even with a third party involved, those contracts will have some legalese in which they will honor the contract of the union in which the third party company is being hired to do a job. Musk acted recklessly in a legal sense and probably did not consult any of his legal gurus who would have advised differently.

 

My company, a company with unionized employees, hired an outside contracting group to perform our work overflow, I don't know if their workers were unionized, but since my techs didn't go insane about hiring non union people, they probably were. Once they were no longer needed, and because they did crap work, the contracting company was told they were done.

 

What's even funnier is watching them act like they don't care

 

The key questions here are whether or not the company you hired had unionized workers or not. As for unions, it the state is not a closed union state, which probably it is not, then the union is only conderned with its union members and the benefits and pay you give them. However, if you hire an outside company to replace the union workers, then the union will get involved.

You have to look at those nasty little details to determine whether or not contractual law will apply or not.

 

I once managed techs for a contracting company who worked for a huge company in CA, none of the employees were unionized, either in-house or contractors. Every so often one of my guys would screw up and the company we contracted to would tell me this guy was no longer allowed to do any work for them. One director told me we could keep the guy on to sweep our parking lot but they would not issue this guy any more work, any pay this guy would get would come from us and not from them. I don't see how a union changes anything.

 

Then I would say that would be above your pay grade, but again, the particular facts of each case are the key. If you didn't know if the third-party company had union representation or not, then that is an important key to the contract. But in my suspicion, the higher-ups probably notified the union of the work overflow and that the hiring was "temporary" which probably made sure the Union would not get a stink this time but put it in their back pocket for future contract negotiations.

A lot of this is like playing chess and it really depends on those exact facts and circumstances. there is a saying, no contract is the same from one company to another other even if the same provisions are listed in each and every contract.

 

LMAO, tru-dat

 

Apparently, historically, it wasn't that conservative friendly! So many folks prolly felt that way, not speaking for OP mind you! Think of it as a biker bar, sure your welcome to come in, BUT, you are always scrutinized when you speak..

 

Hell do it here, call it a test run, just for fun!

 

I read it, but I don't believe it Got some number? Throw them up, preferable before Musk compiles the data on it

 

Which explains a lot about why the infrastructure of democratic run cities is as shytty as it is..... Thanks