Join the Campaign for a May1,Global General Strike !

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  1. philxx

    philxx New Member

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    Whats this our NATION crap ,feel free to tell the striking Locked out workers on the picket lines how the nation has betrayed them.Your Nation not ours.

    Hey the International Working Class knows nor recognises any Nation particularly Our Own.Bloody hell ,even Standard and Poors is getting jittery about nations as economically viable units.

    So what exactly have you got against workers ?
     
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    Workers in the United States are less productive as a whole. You have about 20% of the workers doing 80% of the work! They take a job and the first thing they do is cry about the pay that they agreed to work for. They are slackers and suckers. Those people I am talking about know who they are. Instead of being welfare suckers they are employment suckers.

    These people are sorry sacks of excrement. I have generally found that those that complain the most do the least.

    I honestly do not know anyone in the US getting 50% pay cuts comrade.
     
  3. Shangrila

    Shangrila staff Past Donor

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    This is good to read. A more 'independent' source would be great, but I like to believe that we could eventually hope for a more equal working climate.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can be comfortable in knowing the American History is in your favor.


    This country was formed on Protest … Progress and Change!


    It didn’t come easy, it didn’t come without pain a suffering, didn’t come without tremendous effort and resistance!


    But you can rest assured it came and it will come again!


    This Country will Always Progress Forward … and Never Backwards!
     
  5. Taxcutter

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    May 1: Schedule O-Bot tantrum. Crapping on police cars encouraged.
     
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  6. philxx

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    So you are saying the Workers in the US are a lazy bunch ,at least 80%,i highly suggest you get a job .

    Or maybe with your hatred of workers you should keep away from work as you wouldn't last long with an attitude like yours .

    BTW,workers do make everything ,maintain everything ,transport everything see thats why we are called WORKERS ,not parasite middle class do nothing ,make nothing,maintain Nothings.

    The Working Class is the ONLY source of WEALTH CREATION ,and what does the Middle Class create?Stupidity for one look at Obama for instance !

    Can the Working Class do without the mibble class ?
    Yes! ,can the middle class do without workers ?NO.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL - Bring your own TP. :mrgreen:

    Sorry, I'm going to sit this Commie cluster-foxtrot out and go to work, like real workers do...
     
  8. philxx

    philxx New Member

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    Are you one of the lazy 80% refered to by our "Friend'. worker hatred is on the rise bro'watch out.

    Seriously,this idiot said 80% are 'Lazy"or maybe he was refering to management ?
     
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    I would take you guys much more seriously if governmental enforced "fairness" was not your goal. Of course, if you were the least bit credible, you wouldn't describe a corrupt government as "capitalist".
     
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    Workers make everything from the designs of others. Maintain everything because it was designed with the understanding that it would someday need maintenance, ie replaceable parts. Transport everything because a mind developed the process, capability, and vehicle with which they use. If you were to actually compensate workers for their overall value added contribution, it would be a particularly pathetic existence. Luckily, the market has dictated that the demand for skilled labor maintain a fair compensatory wage. Workers make, maintain and transport everything because they are paid to do so, and their level of pay is directly corollary to the ease at which they can be replaced. Intellectual property rights get a little hazy, but this is an over simplified rebuttal to your workers are king of the jungle speech.

    Huh? I think you have a problem with classification of people and broad generalizations. Also, you seem to misunderstand middle income. Many working class people are members of middle income households. Upon further inspection, you can see it is more of a rural to urban distinction as far as Obama support goes. Furthermore, those that most often supposedly hold the flag of labor support Obama fully.

    Hahahahahahaha......I am sorry to have wasted my time, carry on.
     
  11. philxx

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    If the entire Middle class as in petty bourgeois individual and petty scale producers and Professionals all went out on strike what would happen .yes a little disrupyion and a lot of screaming on the streets .

    If the working Class goes out on strike the Whole Nation Stops Dead in its tracks .And Governments fall or call out the police and Army and start shooting.

    See it as in society TOTALLY depends on the only Class that creates Profit the Proletariet or Working Class .

    now the working class has layers as well ,the most critical and scary to little middle class people are the INDUSTRIAL WORKING CLASS the humans that work in the factories that create EVERYTHING .

    now when you went to school even if home taught by religious nutty Cults,the Buildings that you go to were bought into physical actuality not by middle class intelectual Labour but by the Class of Human that DOES ALL THE PHYSICAL LABOUR.

    Workers have to do some Mental Labour luckily they have a independent University called Marxism and the 4th International.

    Sometimes i get sympathy from criminals who have been to Jail for over a decade ,as i did a real life sentance on the Factory floor with REAL HARD PHYSICAL LABOUR ,not what they refer to as hard labour in prison.

    Now the Proletariet values the help and education and Culture of knowledge that the Bourgeois intelligensia has been bought up and trained in ,but on the TERMS of the Proletariet and subordination of Individuality to the Intrests of Humanity THAT labours Physically or the overwhelming MASS of humans.
     
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    I think you have a problem with Post-Modernist Gobbly goog,you know the rubbish that says History ended with the collapse of the USSR.Or the school of 'Identity politics ,BTW which variety of American are you ,African ,hispanic ,Chinese,Muslim ,Christian ,American or maybe you wish to choose .

    Gay,lesbian ,intersexual with a dash of Irish,Mormon or Republican unDemocrat Tea Party American .

    In the oldern times it was just Americans united as 1 indivisable Nation.

    The Capitialist former Slave Owners Party ,the Democrats never expressed the intrests of labour,you do live in the USA don't you.

    Newsflash ,Obama isn't a Socialist.not even a Social Democrat as in reformist

    So what variety are you????????

    I am sorry for all the big words but I left school at 16 and am so uneducated.
     
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    Whats the matter nasty commie scare little boy ,what are going to do when they demand 50% wage cuts at your workplace if we could call the US government a 'Workplace'

    hey boy ,hey boy what you gona do when capitialism comes for you.

    See Capitialism is a system that is based on MARKETS and 1 of those MARKETS is called the LABOUR MARKET ,and when wages go down in one section of the Market that has something we adults call "FLOW ON EFFECT WITH IN A MARKET".
     
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    Whoever told you that the Goal of communism \Socialism is to reform or Force government to do anything is lying to you .

    The Strategical goal of the Communist movement is the insurrectionary otherthrow by the working Class of all Capitialist government and its replacement with a Workers Government.

    if the capitialist trys to regroup with reforms on the way ,HEY we accept all gains TACTICALLY.

    As byproducts of the coming political Movement not as ends in themselves.

    Revolutionary Party of the Working Class not Social reformist Utopian twaddle.
     
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    Now lets see what is happening to the Economy ,wow has the Recovery started yet?

    Why is the only words in the head of EVERY Capitialist Politican ,Cut this cut that ,Austerity ,default bankruptcy and credit Rating?????.

    Do humans really think 'Well the millenium long struggle of democracy ends with the Debacle we have today"what a fizzer that would be if true.

    Sorry the Class struggle between the 2 great economic classes of the Modern era ,hasn't disappeared because the USSR Collapsed.

    Newsflash,Stalinism wasn't Communism.Seems the History taught in Capitiast Schools and Universities is a lie.Capitialism isn't the end of the line in Human social evolution.History itself has something to say about it ,see there is a difference between what is in books and what IS HISTORY!

    Not subjective interpretations of History ,but real living breathing History in the Making to be later recorded.
     
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    Lots of talk and no action.

    Bring it on, windbag.
     
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    ...and dance around the maypole...Lord, this is not 1917.
     
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    Nor is it 1770,its me Cultural identity to Mobilise internationally with my People of the Woking Class.You have 4th July ,workers in all Nations have May1 or 8 hour Day or Mayday.

    BTW,1890 was before 1917,see how equating the USSR with Socialism and Communism ,as Stalin Did ,makes you look Ignorant .

    Stalin was ignorant to a phillistine brute,

    please note the long tradition of the International workers movement,NOW GLOBALISED .

    http://search.mywebsearch.com/mywebsearch/redirect.jhtml?searchfor=International+workers+day&cb=ZR&n=77DE8857&ptnrS=ZRxpt147YYAU&qid=fe4cc1191f4331394a5f392a81ee4684&action=pick&ss=sub&pn=1&st=hp&ptb=jS9SeLFAU7PZ30enep5AUg&pg=GGmain&ord=0&redirect=mPWsrdz9heamc8iHEhldETQ7yG7eb7Dq8XWywy0uC6Duu%2BviyOK0f9tV5iYkPwi9pHVcjSaiI1w97FU2HYxrLjTewxj5FTGywxxKTDNJh3g%3D&ct=AR&tpr=sbt

    Sorry you maybe part of the 'history died in 1991 crowd".but yes,Socialism and Commun ism PREDATED the 1917 Working Class Revolution.

    Why do you hate us workers???????

    international workers day was a response the the trible conditions and exploitation of workers in the USA at the Time ,highlighted by the Haymarket masacre in Chicago USA.1886.Bloody Police out on the streets killing workers .framing up political activists as the COPS SHOT their own ,yes copper shooting copper as they are scared and stupid always.

    See your granddaddy worked towards the 8 hour Day thats 8hours work ,8 hours Rest,8hours Recreation .

    Seems like a Utopian dream now the 8 Hour Day.
     
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    Put up or shut up.
     
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    No one hates workers, they are the backbone of industry. Trying to mobilize all workers to demolish the people who created the jobs in the first place is biting the hand that feeds you. If you want more, don't be a worker, build your own company and hire others to work for you. In America you can do that. Socialism and Communism spits in the face of Capitalism which goes against what most Americans believe in.
     
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    Oh a tearepublician that dosen't hate the Working Class not possible ,BTW the Capitialist Class makes and creates nothing of any use ,they don't determine levels of employment as that whats the MARKET does for them.Expanding market hire workers shrinking market sack them ,their thinking.But all in relationship to a Market not down to individual capitialists so there goes another myth about the Useful capitialist.

    THEY DO NOTHING ,THEY MAKE NOTHING ,THEY MAINTAIN NOTHING society no longer requires the Parasitic Capitialist Class ,bye bye.

    No wait ,Rupert Murdoch has a use Target Practice on a rifle range.

    Oh lets debunk the 'Capitialists pay us 'crap,the wages of all workers are part of the production costs.

    Raw materials ,Wages ,depreciation of machinery ,power costs of production covered by production .See the Capitialist then gets the Profit on top over and above the Costs of production ,He dosen't then turn around and pay wages .

    And when prices decrease through over production then he Cuts wages or production costs in order that he dosen't get less profit.

    See thats the economic basis for socialism right there ,workers take over ownership of the factories and means of production ,and instead of the profit going to Capitialists it goes into improving ALL SOCIETY.
     
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    Your thinking is so convoluted that there can be no response other than the fact you have absolutely no grasp of business; perhaps you do, however is is 180 degrees out..
     
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    Its the later i can assure you 30years in private industry on and off the factory floor I am pretty clear on the meaning of capitialism and how it works at the coalface lets say.

    Not in Bubble world of University ,but real capitialism extracting real profit from real humans as wage slaves.
     
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    University is not exactly a "bubble world", but this concept of "wage slaves"...you do realize you could always get another job or go back to school and get another job or even get a few friends together and form your own business. I am afraid that this mobilization thing of yours is rather a thing of the past. Do you even have a grasp of what it takes to open the doors of a factory? How much capital has to be put up front with no guarantee of a return on that money? Your working "for the man" is easy...you go to work and he pays you. You don't have to accept the job...complaining is childish.
     
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    I won't be joining the strike. Commie bastards will not have my support.
     

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