Jordan is Palestine

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  1. highlander

    highlander Banned

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    Sorry what a silly thing to say.... Israel owns the political system in New York, it owns the media, it controls the demolition contracts......am I being a tad sarcastic?

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  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jordan isn't Palestine.

    Even in the 1950s the USA was calling the West Bank "Arab Palestine".

    so unless you consider the West Bank to be part of Jordan, the OP is wrong.
     
  3. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Jordan FOR NOW isn't Palestine.
    BUT it will be.
    It's the ONLY Logical and necessary solution to the M.E.
     
  4. RoccoR

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    MGB ROADSTER, et al,

    I would like to know why you think: "It's the ONLY Logical and necessary solution."

    (COMMENT)

    Depending on the perspective and time frame, the original position (Jordan is Palestine) maybe both true and false. The answer is subjective in time and political definition.

    In terms of time, during the Ottoman holding, Palestine was a undefined territory. That is, it had no definite boundaries. The analogy would be Appalachia in the Eastern US. Until 1965, and the Congressionally created Appalachian Regional Commission, defined by 82 countries, saying Appalachia was like saying the foothills of the Mountain Range.

    When, in the Treaty of Sevres (1920), the territory was officially renounces by the successor to the Ottoman Empire and all rights of suzerainty or jurisdiction and ceded to the Allied Powers, the territory of Palestine was caveated in Article 95 as having "such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers." Trans-Jordan was part of the Mandate in of Palestine in 1921, before the Mandate was formally approved, it was part of the Mandate of Palestine in 1929, when the status was addressed again, and it remained so until "March 22, 1946, HRH Emir Abdullah negotiated a new Anglo-Transjordanian Treaty (Item #74, Page 143, Volume #6, Treaty Series), ending the British mandate and gaining full independence for Transjordan." That is the perspective of the Hashemite Kingdom, the position held by the Mandatory (UK), and the UN (successor to the League of Nations).

    Todays question, again rests on the Perspective. Is there any reality between the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, and any claim to the people we call "Palestinians" today have on that territorial sovereignty? And of course the answer is No!

    Without regard to Palestine National Charter of and the claim, it is generally taken that the Hostile Arab Palestinian of today, considers the Hashemite Kingdom a separate entity. Some Palestinians argue, still today, that Trans-Jordan, the predecessor to the Hashemite Kingdom, was never part of the Mandate.

    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, technically Jordan is Palestine.

    And so is Israel. They were both at some point in time part of the Palestine Mandate.

    Though Israel was Palestine for 26 years while Jordan was Palestine for only 3 years.
     
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    Probably not.. Bibi plans to wall it off.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel is Palestine.
     
  8. RoccoR

    RoccoR Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ronstar, et al,

    Yes, it is more accurate to say that, at one time, both Jordan and Israel were part of the territory formerly under the Mandate (of Palestine).

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    The territory of Palestine (under Mandate), is a lesser subdivision in the hierarchy political parcels of land than any parcel is under it own sovereignty.

    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
  9. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Thank you !!!
    Finally !!!!
     

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