Keep Calm Abbott is not PM

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  1. mickeyy

    mickeyy New Member

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    - PATHOS: What Liberal Party voters listen to (obviously from the older generation)
    - LOGOS: What Labor Party and Greens voters listen to
    - ETHOS: What Liberal Party voters look to

    Use your brain and look at the statistics, evidence and other information which all point at the lack of knowledge which the Liberal Party has. They are dumb. They sound like primary school children.

    In the words of Tony Abbott...
    1. Carbon is weightless
    2. Migrants should wear deodorant and learn to queue
    3. Labor's spending during the GFC did not get us away from recession - it was other 'unknown factors'
    4. We should not have a mining tax because we have a two speed economy
    5. If we want to tax carbon why not have a simple tax on carbon (a.k.a. a carbon tax you derp tony abbott)
    6. I predict we will oppose mandatory pre-commitment (why wont you promise?)
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Someone`s been learning their lines down at trades hall.
     
  3. axialturban

    axialturban Well-Known Member

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    1. its weightless in space, how much does one carbon atom weigh anyway - effectively nothing... without context your point is meaningless.
    2. he didnt say that
    3. unknown factors were actually the capacity for our interest rates to drop, stimulus did nothing except serve as an excuse to give money to ALP aligned industries
    4. we already do tax mining
    5. huh?
    6. why would you expect someone to make a promise they cannot make... oh thats right its normal ALP pracitse to promise things just to get what you want - just look at Julia and the 'no carbon tax' and 'pokie reform' promises she made knowing full well she would break.

    All the ALP seems to do is try and score points. Politics is not meant to be a game, its meant to be a system to ensure responsible and effective governance.
     
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    Lets face it on one side of politics we have a communist traitor and on the other a plain nincompoop.

    Where are we headed?
     
  5. mickeyy

    mickeyy New Member

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    QUOTE axialturban


    1. its weightless in space, how much does one carbon atom weigh anyway - effectively nothing... without context your point is meaningless. One carbon atom is 12.0107amu (atomic mass unit). Anything that has a mass will have a weight on Earth. You don't weigh carbon in space because weighing something requires gravity. The Carbon Tax is going to tax at per tonne not per atom so you shouldn't be worrying about per atom anyways. I think you should do science (chemistry especially).
    2. he didnt say that He didn't say that but one of his MPs did (Teresa Gambaro) http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-...comments/3771786/?site=illawarra&section=news
    3. unknown factors were actually the capacity for our interest rates to drop, stimulus did nothing except serve as an excuse to give money to ALP aligned industries "Unknown factors"... That's what every anti-Labor party person would say to discredit the Labor Party. I can tell you that if it wasn't for the Labor Party then there wouldn't be 200,000 jobs provided during the GFC. If you can't explain it then don't. Markets require both fiscal and monetary policy and I believe that the fiscal policy in place during the GFC (money handouts, school halls, digital education revolution) all had a carry through affect).
    WATCH THIS VIDEO
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuVMsbYgf40"]2/3 Abbott quizzed on broadband, the economy, and foreign policy - YouTube[/ame]

    4. we already do tax mining Not enough mate. Why is there a two speed economy then? Why do nurses and paramedics get paid so badly?
    5. huh? [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74"] It's Tony Abbott [/ame]WATCH THAT OR SHUT UP --- he is describing the ALP's carbon tax...
    6. why would you expect someone to make a promise they cannot make... oh thats right its normal ALP pracitse to promise things just to get what you want - just look at Julia and the 'no carbon tax' and 'pokie reform' promises she made knowing full well she would break. You're wrong cause the ALP is actually introducing an ETS not a Carbon Tax.

    DEFINE ETS: An ETS works by setting a cap on emissions and requiring emitters to hold a permit for each tonne of CO₂ that they emit. The level of the cap determines the number of permits available.

    But there is a twist because the government is fixing the price to the ETS at $23

    Julia Gillard said no to a Carbon Tax... What she brought forward is an ETS not a carbon tax. It is just marketed as a carbon tax.

    DEFINE CARBON TAX: A cost is added to all emissions, equal to the level of the tax, and this causes people to cut back.

    If emitters don’t already hold a permit, they must either cut back on their emissions or buy a permit from another emitter, who must then cut back.

    And you think that voting for tony abbott will give you pokie reform? Julia Gillard didnt drop pokie reform but did a compromised. She only wanted it for the ACT because she wouldnt get enough support. ACT doesnt have a parliament so everything in the ACT acts under federal law.
    All the ALP seems to do is try and score points. Politics is not meant to be a game, its meant to be a system to ensure responsible and effective governance.Lol and that's what's tony abbott is doing. He's just saying no to everything and isn't acting in the interests of Australians. He seems to be jumping back on about Craig Thomson and FairWork Australia when the ALP doesnt even mention about what all his failures in the past..........
     
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    axialturban Well-Known Member

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    Geez you ask a lot of questions. I guess since you do not know the answers its easier to believe the simpleton lies and misdirections the ALP peddles.

    That would be because the Labor states, much like the federal Labor, run things into the ground.
     
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    Libs must have difficulties with dealing with large amounts of information. The previous post was considerable and all you pulled was a single line to attack, and used the word "simpleton". Seriously, it's entertaining to see such a simpleton attack, using the word simpleton in the attack. Rather ironic...

    Now, with the accusation that Labor run everything into the ground, what do Liberals do? They sell everything cheap, then give massive amounts of tax payer money for the privatised companies to run things. Thus washing their hands of responsibility, while getting cheers and jeers from their private company mates that are filling their pockets with our cash. "Running everything into the ground" is bullsh!t. They remain responsible for critical services. With Libs we can expect critical services being sold and us having to pay through the ass for them when we need them.
     
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    Then why are the QLD & NSW hospitals so pathetically neglected? Anna Bligh`s billion dollar boo boo on the Traverston Crossing Dam would have been better spent on the hospital system. Wasn`t the NSW labor govt trying to sell off assets to save it`s own skin from the effects of it`s own incompetence?
     
  9. axialturban

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    Its wasnt just the NSW Labor government either, the QLD Labor government has just sold off its state owned rail operations which are huge - australias largest freight rail operator, and the worlds largest rail transporter of export coal from mine to port, and its growing with billions in new contracts - that's how much Beattnick and Blight have screwed QLD that they had to sell off their most successful wealth engine just to get the cash to spend to keep things going. The federal Libs gave the GST to the states and it was more money then the states had ever gotten from the federal government and the state labor gov's still ran things into the ground. The seemingly strataspherical incompetance and nepotism of union entrained and aligned political parties is only matched at their capacity to mislead and misdirect the public at large.
     

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