Killing Babies no Different from Abortion, Experts Say

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    "Lecherous bastards ?! " :roflol: Who drive women down to the clinic and FORCE them to have abortions....LOL!


    YOU HAVE CLAIMED THIS BEFORE AND NEVER PRODUCED PROOF........DID YOU THINK I FORGOT YOUR ASSININE CLAIM AND YOUR TOTAL LACK OF PROOF?




    I guess you COULDN'T even learn ONE thing, you still think a fetus is a human being with rights which means , since you're against abortion, that you don't think BORN women should have rights....


     
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    Only in your own crimped tiny deluded ignorant little "Happy Place" :)....funny how you have to GRASP and CLING desperately to any crumb of what you desperately hope is any acknowledgement of your babbling has a teeny tiny bit of actual truth... (IT DOESN'T ) :)
     
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    I can keep asking you HOW you intend to eliminate abortion almost as long as YOU ARE GOING TO EVADE THE QUESTION :)


    A woman can die from a botched abortion which is WHAT YOU WANT because women don't die from abortions in clean , safe, clinics with good doctors....IF YOU HAVE YOUR WAY THERE WILL BE MORE BOTCHED ABORTIONS because not all women will have access to safe clean clinics and good doctors and THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT.


    AS I posted and as you completely ignored because YOU HAVE NO SOLUTION....


    You post : ""I would like to eliminate all abortions."""

    BUT HAVE NO IDEA HOW, NO SOLUTION besides screaming at women about how evil they are for having abortions.....and WHY haven't you seen that it hasn't eliminated abortions?

    Abortions have been around for thousands of years but YOU think YOU can eliminate them......got some hilarious magical plan? Let's hear it ????[/SIZE]
     
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    Have you looked at this thread yet? ""Question: Pro-lifers, Exactly How Would You End Elective Abortion? ""


    Got ANY answers or just more Blow and Go ??? :)
     
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    Do you mean because the mortality rate related to induced abortion is 0.6 deaths per 100,000 abortions, compared to the pregnancy mortality rate of 8.8 deaths per 100,000 live births?

    If pro-lifers would adopt proven methods, we could at least reduce the rate.

    That's a myth, because...

    I don't have to pretend anything. Credible studies prove it doesn't.

    Was that an automated response? Because it makes no sense in reply to the following information:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/...4B30UE20081204
    " (Reuters) - No high-quality study done to date can document that having an abortion causes psychological distress, or a "post-abortion syndrome," and efforts to show it does occur appear to be politically motivated, U.S. researchers said on Thursday.

    A team at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore reviewed 21 studies involving more than 150,000 women and found the high-quality studies showed no significant differences in long-term mental health between women who choose to abort a pregnancy and others."

    They aren't fighting against abortion, they are using the issue to make a fortune. They are hucksters, and pro-lifers are easy targets.

    Executives are paid for their administrative skills, they don't perform abortions.

    Based on what? It appears you make up things as you go along.

    Since they are 14 times safer than childbirth, that would mean childbirth must be unthinkably dangerous.
     
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    I don't believe anyone should have the right to kill anyone else.
     
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    You conceded that any abortion can be deadly.
     
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    This is a lie and you know it. Post some facts, or retract your statement. Here is what I have:
    http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/25/...planned-parenthood-under-obamacare-heres-how/
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/planned-parenthood-mandates-abortions-affiliates-flee/
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/25/why-are-we-still-funding-planned-parenthood/ (clearly the British are Liars with their accents and all)
    http://www.lifenews.com/2012/10/28/planned-parenthoods-taxpayer-funding-subsidizes-its-abortions/

    (sorry unrelated, but I thought would enjoy saying: "No, those guys don't do that because I vote for them."
    http://thefederalist.com/2015/03/18...ter-proves-abortion-lobby-controls-democrats/

    Then why are 79% of all facilities in Black and Hispanic areas? Even Auschwitz was more subtle.
     
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    The question is do you want to eliminate the need for abortion?

    This is the 21st Century. There is no excuse for not using birth control.
     
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    Still won't answer the question, "do you want to eliminate the need for abortions?"
     
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    As do yours......
     
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    Do you think there would be no need for abortion if 100% of women used birth control 100% correctly 100% of the time throughout their 30 years of fertility?
     
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    No because the death rate for abortions could be twice as high as pregnancy.

    So does that mean you don't want to eliminate the need for all abortions?

    That seems to confirm what I said about it being birth control.

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    I read that part. I just don't trust it.

    They are getting rich, yes?

    Another statistic I do not consider accurate.
     
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    It could be? Post the stats to prove it from a reliable source.

    Anyone would. How?

    Another automated response.



    Why don't you?

    The pro-life hucksters? They are making money, but there is a lot of competition in the "pro-life" huckster business.

    Then quote the "accurate" statistic from a reliable non-biased source. And don't forget to answer this question:

     
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    Those are propaganda rags, not legitimate news sources.

    "On March 21, 2010, President Obama made the final move to secure the health reform law’s passage: He issued an executive order barring federal funding of abortion under the Affordable Care Act. The executive order expressly stated that health reform would “maintain current Hyde Amendment restrictions,” referencing the law that bars federal funding for abortions."
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...bortion-divide/2011/10/02/gIQApQ6cFL_blog.htm

    "Under Obamacare, health insurance plans could cover some or all elective abortions, but they can’t use federal tax credits and subsidies to offset the cost."
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ide-federal-subsidies-for-elective-abortions/


    "Cain also claimed that “75 percent of [clinics] were built in the black community.” But we found no evidence that that was true in Sanger’s time, and it’s not true today...
    Also, the Guttmacher Institute reported this year that 9 percent of abortion clinics in the U.S. are in neighborhoods in which 50 percent or more of the residents are black. That’s according to the group’s “census of all known abortion providers.”
    http://www.factcheck.org/2011/11/cains-false-attack-on-planned-parenthood/
     
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    Most of us do - and it would be possible IF there were a simple, effective cheap method of birth control that is achievable by the average couple

    The failure rates of most forms of birth control - especially those "sanctioned" by church groups is abysmal - with abstinence holding out as the number one failure - because people DON"T
     
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    No one does except for in wars, self defense, executions...


    AND you forgot to prove that lecherous bastards FORCE women to have abortions !!!!
     
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    Hardly a concession since, UNLIKE YOU, I don't deny facts.

    WHERE'S YOUR PROOF THAT "LECHEROUS BASTARDS" FORCE WOMEN TO HAVE ABORTIONS ??????

    YOU FORGOT TO PROVIDE PROOF!
     
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    NO, my question was, and has been , how do you plan to eliminate abortion........


    You are now trying to weasel out of answering ....:) :) :) Drooling some stupid bumper sticker slogan doesn't answer a thing, it's not a plan. it's not even an idea...


    Women do not need to use birth control if they don't feel like it....they don't need an "excuse"...they just need their own reason ....they do not have to answer to angry, frustrated old old old misogynist witch burners....
     
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    NO, my question to YOU was HOW DO YOU PLAN TO ELIMINATE ABORTIONS???AND OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN"T ANSWER ! :)




    WHERE'S YOUR PROOF THAT "LECHEROUS BASTARDS" FORCE WOMEN TO HAVE ABORTIONS ??????

    YOU FORGOT TO PROVIDE PROOF!
     
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    Still won't read the thread ""Question : Pro-lifers, Exactly How Would You End Elective Abortion? """


    Why not? A poster like you with all the answers :)roflol::roflol::roflol: )
     
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    What attacks? Or just trolling through?
     
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    The question is, do you want to eliminate the need for abortion? Seems people can't answer that one.
     
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    I already provided that stat. You dismiss mine as fast as I dismiss yours. I don't know where we find anyone who isn't
    instantly maligned by one side or the other.

    Your deflection about abortionist making millions is duly noted.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Then we have a common goal. At least we can agree on something. Now we should work harder to achieve that goal.
     
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    I'm ignoring you because your large font hurts my eyes and your emoticons are childish.
     
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