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Kobach: Texas Case Challenges Election Directly at Supreme Court

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  1. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...hallenges-election-directly-at-supreme-court/

    States can bring a case directly to the SCOTUS and Texas has done so. The article explains that TX is suing GA, MI, WI, and PA, claiming the states violated the USC by changing election laws by means other than through the legislative bodies.

     
    camp_steveo, Dec 8, 2020
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    Simple question or two. Isn't it too late? What happens if the Supreme Court upholds the complaint, say on December 20th? Again, isn't it too late?

    This is absolutely the strongest argument on our national election failures! There are localities in these states that did their own things passing changes outside of their state laws.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe the 'safe harbor' date means anything if there is a current legal challenge. The only Constitutional date is Jan 20th when Trump's 1st term officially ends.
     
    camp_steveo, Dec 8, 2020
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    MissingMayor Well-Known Member

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    Texas has zero standing as an injured party. This is beyond stupid.
     
    MissingMayor, Dec 8, 2020
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting. The Supreme Court definitely needs to step in and settle a few election issues on constitutional clarity, at minimum before any other major elections take place. Tons of lawsuits are being filed against this year's election. Some do and some don't have much to do with this "wasted" election, which is tainted with irregularities in select states.

    If the S.C. were to hear this suit, it not only clears up election legislation for future election standards, but it also seeks redress for the 2020 vote.

    Remedies requested in this particular suit:

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    The suit concludes:


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    https://www.scribd.com/document/487348469/TX-v-State-Motion-2020-12-07-FINAL#from_embed
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you read the filing? :)
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The suit addresses your questions. Everyone should skim through the actual filing.


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    LoneStarGal, Dec 8, 2020
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    I did.

    It’s going to be tossed so fast your head will spin.
     
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    Seems like the time to have sued over mail-in voting was before the vote took place. Absolutely dirty politics to wait until afterwards and only do it because the result of the election wasn't what you wanted.
     
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    ~ This sounds similar to Bush vs Gore in Florida. The Supreme Court got involved in that issue. Same thing is likely to happen again.
    As they say : " Don't mess with Texas ."
     
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    No, it won't. It will not even get far enough to be tossed.
     
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    That is highly probable too!
     
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    And the Court said, "Time to stop with the recounts and lawsuits and accept the results".
     
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    Your crystal ball must work better than mine. Mine hasn't predicted the future since I was 8 or 10 years old. Even then, it was wrong most of the time.

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    The Supreme Court technically has to get involved to refuse to consider this nonsense...
     
    Egoboy, Dec 8, 2020
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    This is not the only challenge. As I mentioned earlier, many complaints are asking the Court to clarify some of these issues for future elections, if not this one. Seems like people should be able to at least agree that the S.C. needs to clarify rules around our election laws, so we don't start a bad precedent with election integrity questions at every election.

    I thought that this thread was going to be about the Amicus Brief that Ted Cruz and several others filed yesterday on an existing S.C. election decision. Turns out, the Texas filing is separate and covers other issues.

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    Looking at the Supreme Court docket for Brnovich v. DNC, there have been multiple briefs filed from April 27 - December 7 by multiple parties. Cruz's and other Senators filing yesterday is just one of many asking the S.C. for clarification on the Voting Rights Act.

    Link provided. The list is much to long to screenshot here.

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    https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/19-1257.html
     
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    The only thing is has to do is acknowledge that it received the request. No requirement to give it a hearing.
     
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    So it seems the new argument isn’t that fraud occurred but that the people were allowed to vote incorrectly.

    At least y’all are getting to the point that the goal is to disenfranchise voters.
     
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    ~ Only the ones who cheat - or are deceased .
     
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    Yes it does.
     
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    Wake us when you find a few actual votes from dead people. The only one I heard about was that guy who filled out his dead mother's ballot for Trump.
     
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    That's not what these lawsuits are asking - they are asking to nullify millions of legal votes and shift the election to State Legislators.
     
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    The result of unconstitutionally changing laws is exactly that, but the voters in states that followed the Constitution are the ones being disenfranchised.
     
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    No, of course not.... They have to receive the request and they have to deny a hearing, so as I said, the SCOTUS will get involved...

    I think the irony is that there are few states in the US where it's harder to vote than Texas, having them challenging states that made it easier to vote during a pandemic...

    Awesome!
     
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    'legal' votes that prior to unconstitutional actions by the defendant states were not legal votes.
     
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