Last remaining Far-Right groups banned from Social Media.

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  1. Mac-7

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    Where is the beef?

    You call them fascists but being pro life and for a sensible immigration policy does not translate to fascism
     
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    They're after a "holy war". They are backward fascists looking to take advantage of islamophobia, given the old filthy tactics of harassing "pakies" didn't work. To see any common ground with them is to accept an extreme right wing perspective. I appreciate Trump has given a green light to such backwardness, but be serious!
     
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    Ok if you say so

    Being banned from social media all the info on them is by the libs who hate them

    Which I think is whst liberals want to do to everyone they dislike
     
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    Any sane person would want this type of extreme right hate curtailed e.g. "The terrorist who drove into a group of Muslim worshippers at Finsbury Park mosque had devoured material from Britain First, while in the last 24 hours the Austrian authorities have revealed an investigation into the leader of Generation Identity, after he apparently received a four-figure donation from the Christchurch terrorist" Hope Not Hate.

    Whinging about liberals really isn't sensible!
     
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    But sure one can discuss a law suite like that, nothing wrong about it.
    One can discuss the Greek reparation demands.
     
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    Britain First advocates sane immigration policies

    If that is extreme right there is something seriously wrong with the other side not them
     
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    No they don't. They use immigration to ensnare the gullible. Its standard extreme right wing tactic in the UK. As I said, they switched from "paki" hatred to islamic hatred. Their ideology is focused on "holy war" cobblers. For you to show them any support is to support extremism. Perhaps you need to consider your own politics before offering support for groups that have encouraged terrorist attack in our country?
     
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    If the left in britain did not insidted of overrunning the country with muslims there would be no backlash

    Britain First seems to represent the frustration ordinary people in western countries have with open immigration policies
     
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    An utterly ridiculous comment. Notice how you ignored the extremist's role in encouraging terrorism. I have no time for tacit support for terrorism. Goodbye
     
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    you’re lucky I talk to you at all

    Increasingly the only way the left can win is by cutting the mic of conservative voices
     
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    Cite the language utilized by the organization to encourage terrorism. Show precisely what has been stated on the part of themselves.
     
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    You didn't read it, did you? Are you even aware the leaders were jailed for religiously aggravated harassment?
     
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    In the united kingdom, simply claiming that Allah was no prophet is sufficient to warrant such a charge against someone.

    Once again. Cite the language utilized by the organization to encourage terrorism. Show precisely what has been stated on the part of themselves. Do not present the claims and interpretations of others who have read the message, but rather present the actual message itself. Nothing less. Show everyone present precisely what language was utilized by the organization to warrant the backlash. Do not bother with summaries, only the actual message and language used.
     
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    Please don't fib.

    Its revealing that you're not condemning these fascists. I'll quote the judge: "These defendants were not merely exercising their right to free speech but were instead aiming religiously aggravated abuse at innocent members of the public"; "I have no doubt it was their joint intention to use the facts of the [Canterbury] case for their own political ends. It was a campaign to draw attention to the race, religion and immigrant background of the defendant". And of course we know that Joe Cox's murderer repeatedly said "Britain First". You spread religious hate, you encourage these terrible acts of violence.
     
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    Just calling them "Fascists" or "Nazis" is enough to have people banned. No further evidence is required.

    This growing ignorance, especially among the democracies, is a truly dangerous movement.
     
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    Ignorance? They typically are fascists and nazis. Those offering tacit support for these extremists are the real danger. They allow the cancer to grow unhindered.
     
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    If condemnation is wished, then cite the actual message that was presented by the group. Cite what was actually said on their part, not merely what others have said regarding their supposed message. Until actual evidence is presented on the part of yourself, not summary but evidence, no condemnation will be had except for that of yourself.

    Which, once again, is nothing more than summary. Cite the actual message that has been utilized, promoted, and spread by the group. Show their words and their sentences, not those of others.
     
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    The arrticle yoou cited said

    "Like many terrorists, Osborne had a “dysfunctional“ background and history of violence, having served two years in prison for assault and suffered from depression, alcohol and drug abuse. Osborne’s partner, Sarah Andrews, painted a picture of a restless, troubled and unpredictable man who she described as a “functioning alcoholic”. He had been prescribed medication for anxiety and depression and referred to rehabilitation services, but appeared to be worsening".

    The man was obviously sick but the credibility of the article is in serious doubt because of the opening sentence of 'like many terrorists'. Islamic terrorists tend to be well educated It would be very foolish to draw any conclusions from such a clearly troubled individual.
     
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    Just more tacit support for known fascists. We know the group calls for a "Holy War". We know that they have used social media to try and spread their hate. An example of their material...



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    Of course. Any fascist is obviously sick.
     
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    Not in medical terms, as this man was.

    There is a growing concern about islamic terrorism, or fascism as it's often called, throughout the world, and especially in Western Europe. Do you have any concerns or solutions for this phenomenon?
     
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    No, definitely sick. Something that repulsive cannot be sane.

    We shouldn't have attacked Iraq. We shouldn't have bombed Libya. We shouldn't have bombed Syria. Good starting points; then I'd construct counter-terrorism policy around analysis like Sandler (e.g. applications of game theory to design optimal strategies) . However, its weird that you're only referring to Islamic terrorism. You know, for example, that the majority of terrorist attacks in the US are committed by the far right?
     
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    There are only two explanations for why there is such a stubborn refusal on the part of yourself to show just what message was being presented by the group in question.

    The first explanation is yourself knowing full well that the actual message does not fit the narrative, as well as knowing that presenting it would require acknowledging the intellectual dishonesty on the part of yourself.

    The second explanation is that the language of hate crime laws in the united kingdom are so broad and so inclusive, even citing the message of the group in question to demonstrate a point would open yourself up to legal repercussions and consequences as a direct result.

    Which does not work. Try again.
     

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