Latest Trump Indictment Proves Deep State Is Trying To Rig Yet Another Election

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/0...-state-is-trying-to-rig-yet-another-election/

Of course it isn't a secret. We have Russian collusion in 2016. We have the Hunter Biden laptop censorship in 2020. They know that they can't be believed in 2024 so they want to simply remove Trump before the election cycle is in full swing.

We've seen the first example of this land like a dead fish from NY and Alvin Bragg. You get the sensational headlines and the breathless MSNBC and CNN hosts hyperventilating as they imagine their fantasy becoming reality. However then the details are dug into and later the complete lack of substance to the matters makes them go away. Each time Trump not only withstands the assaults but becomes strong as the desperation and lack of competence and ability to govern becomes apparent to more and more people.

If there were some shining cities on the hill, if Democratic governance were producing great results, if anything were playing out well in reality, none of this would be necessary. Much like a crazy ex, the Democrats are going to make sure you come back to them whether you like it or not. Just like an abuser they wouldn't have to treat you this way if only you'd just listen and do as they said.

Biden can't survive an actual campaign. COVID let them hide him and the lack of support in the prior cycle. No one will be able to hide this in 2024. There is no screen, no camera, no filter, no CGI that can distort what is coming. So the only choice is try to arrest your opposition since you can't beat him.

It will fall flat. The Democratic desperation is so brazen and bold that it seems to be finally giving pause to the general populace. The useful idiots will always be the first on the wall but the general populace, they are starting to see that if they go along, their differences and disagreements won't be far behind. It isn't just that if you aren't with Biden you're against him. It's if you aren't with him you're a terrorist, a child abuser, a Latino White Supremacist, and any other label they'll conjure to exercise power.

Figure it out now or be ready to be added to the list later when they come for you. Most have woken up to that fact. Have you? If you have you aren't bananas. You're completely sane and the world has gone bananas.

 

The other side of the "everyone is out to get Trump" coin could be,
Trump is a criminal.

 

They didn't investigate a crime and find out it was him. They desperately investigated him from every possible angle looking for crimes to charge to him. Thats not the normal approach.

That being said, both can be true.
It's not another side of a coin. It's possible that everyone is out to get him, and he is a criminal.

 

Stalin would be proud of the Democrats and whoever it was that said show me the man and I'll show you the crime.

 

Trump's weird worshipers who venerate him as being above the law (and parrot the Loser's incessant cry baby whining that everyone is being mean to him) need to prepare themselves to confront the impending reality. The Loser's treating national security with contempt is especially loathsome to may conservatives who endured him until now.

Consider a chronic apologist for Trump on Fox News:

JONATHAN TURLEY: It is an extremely damning indictment. There are indictments that are sometimes called narrative or speaking indictments. These are indictments that are really meant to make a point as to the depth of the evidence. There are some indictments that are just bare bones. This is not. The special counsel knew that there would be a lot of people who were going to allege that the Department of Justice was acting in a biased or politically motivated way.

This is clearly an indictment that was drafted to answer those questions. It’s overwhelming in details. And, you know, the Trump team should not fool itself, these are hits below the waterline. These are witnesses who apparently testified under oath, gave statements to federal investigators, both of which can be criminally charged if they’re false. Those witnesses are directly quoting the president in encouraging others not to look for documents or allegedly to conceal them. It’s damaging.

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...ent-ballgame-says-jonathan-turley/ar-AA1clM90]

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I voted for Trump twice but this time, much to my wife's consternation, I decided I would vote for a different candidate next year. Well, the Democrats, DOJ and FBI have put me back in the Trump camp. If our government wants to play third world banana republic politics then one has to decide which bunch he has to be with. Not a good way to run a Republic but when you are given the choice of a boorish cry baby oaf verses a treasonous bribe taking crook it is just something I'll have to live with.

 

Im sure he technically is. The average citizen violates federal law several times a day and never knows it. With 80,000 pages of federal law on the books, its impossible to live a modern life without bumping into that web.

These charges all center around Trump's handling of classified documents vs the 'Espionage Act.' If you think Trump was engaged in espionage, then I guess these charges would be relevent. Most of us think that's a ridiculous assertion, which makes these charges clearly just an attempt to use the legal and justice systems as tools for election interference.

 

Recidivism can be impervious to the distinction between unproven, hyper-partisan allegations and damning, evidence-sustaining indictments.

Anyone who has contempt for America's national security and loves Trump's "big, beautiful wall" that he made Mexico pay for will vote for him repeatedly.

"You know, the wall is built!
We did a great job in the wall.
Remember, the wall, they said it could never be done.
One of the largest infrastructure projects we've ever had in this country...!"
[https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial]​

 

I used to be a Trump supporter, but not any more. That said, I have to agree that this isn't about justice. It's about getting Trump because he is a threat to the Democrat power machine, whose own similar sins go back decades, even before Trump became President. Yet they hide them and ignore them all the while, even now.

 

Trump is a vomit inducing scoundrel. I am surprised it has taken this long for them to get something on him.

 

The non-partisan concern for national security and respect for the law does happen to coincide with the Democratic agenda, but the contempt for national security transcends partisanship.

Trump will be accorded ample opportunity to raise vast sums for a legal defense to confront the plethora of damning evidence.

If you believe that extremist Republicans in Congress are remiss in failing to bring credible charges against the current administration, I have no idea why you would imagine they would do so. They certainly don't evidence such lassitude.

 

An ilk of dissidents will exhibit the same contempt for American jurisprudence as they do for our democratic electoral system.

I hope that Special Counsel Smith and his family are being protected, and that Trump doesn't again incite his goons to perpetrate violence.

 

all Trump had to do is the same Biden and Pence did, turn the docs over when discovered, Trump refused to turn them over even when asked too

Trump brought this on himself

Trump knows he is above the law, and will only get a hand slap even if found guilty, so he takes things as far as he can - that is the reality of it - rich privilege

it's no different from shoplifters knowing they won't get anything but a hand slap if caught shoplifting, why would they stop

most people would feel shame if caught committing a crime, hand slap or not, some feel no shame

 

And Joe Biden is a "lamb of Jesus" who has never done anything wrong. In the words of your favorite, "Cone on, man!"

I don't want to see either one of them nominated in 2024.

As for your comments about Trump, if you showed a shred of skepticism about the conduct of Joe Biden, your position would be far more credible.

 

Much the opposite. They begged him for over a year to turn over the documents that it was criminal for him to be in possession of. It was only after he refused, then evaded the subpoena and hid the documents, that he was FINALLY indicted. This is the equivalent of kid gloves wrapped in baby dove feathers.

 

Trump's worshipers will ignore the evidentiary reality as he puts on his show, whining that everyone is being mean to him to wee wee up his base and raise money.

As the spoiled drama queen had correctly noted, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"

 

Based on the charge document, he continued to review and go through the boxes while sending some in a few times. Also, it says something very odd...https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.3.0.pdf
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Nara referred him to the FBI for investigation for turning inn some of the confidential documents. Not because he refused! Several pages Trump continues to go through the boxes to then turn in more documents except his lawyer missed some boxes.

 

Well said and worth repeating.

 

Trump will get what he deserves.
“Wheels of justice grind slow but grind fine”
― Sun Tzu

 

Plurality in U.S. support 2nd Trump indictment: Poll
A solid majority of Americans say the charges against former President Donald Trump regarding his handling of classified documents are either very or somewhat serious.

Trump set to be arraigned on Tuesday »

 

Trump doesn't have to be a spy for the charges against him to be warranted. That information is protected for a reason and he kept it all unsecured and undocumented and refused to return it. That's not nothing. This isn't jaywalking or getting a parking ticket.

 

How much time do outgoing Presidents have to go through their papers to determine what to retain as personal documents?


The Presidential Records Act (PRA) requires the President to separate personal documents from Presidential records before leaving office. 44 U.S.C. 2203(b). The PRA makes clear that, upon the conclusion of the President’s term in office, NARA assumes responsibility for the custody, control, preservation of, and access to the records of a President. 44 U.S.C. 2203(g)(1). The PRA makes the legal status of Presidential records clear and unambiguous, providing that the United States reserves and retains “complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records.” 44 U.S.C. 2202. There is no history, practice, or provision in law for presidents to take official records with them when they leave office to sort through, such as for a two-year period as described in some reports. If a former President or Vice President finds Presidential records among personal materials, he or she is expected to contact NARA in a timely manner to secure the transfer of those Presidential records to NARA.

https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001

MISSED?


Trump tried to obstruct the investigation. The government thinks it can prove Trump intentionally tried to interfere with the investigation by having material moved.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/06/politics/annotated-trump-indictment-dg/

Mr. Corcoran’s notes, first recorded into an iPhone and then transcribed on paper, essentially gave prosecutors a road map to building their case. Mr. Trump, according to the indictment, pressured Mr. Corcoran to thwart investigators from reclaiming reams of classified material and even suggested to him that it might be better to lie to investigators and withhold the documents altogether.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/11/us/politics/trump-indictment-m-evan-corcoran.html

NO PAYWALL
https://archive.ph/2HlLc

 

What crime has Trump committed?

Meanwhile,
Biden is on record illegally possessing thousands of classified documents.
Biden is on record accepting bribes from foreign nations.
Biden is on record assisting the enemy in a time of war.

That's just three of the numerous crimes that Biden should be impeached, charged, and thrown in jail for.

 

Right on... That's why if he committed a crime, then I'd be "out to get him" as well. Although, I'm still waiting for anyone to come up with a crime that Trump has committed... Possessing documents "with classified markings", per the DOJ indictment language, is not a crime (per the Constitution and the Presidential Records Act). Non-disclosure agreements are not a crime either.

Many people are "out to get him" regardless, simply because he is a political opponent that they fear.

 

I don't care what a fake news propagandist has to say.

The indictment is a political witch hunt. Trump, per the Constitution and the Presidential Records Act, has every right to have the documents that he has, all of which pertain to his tenure in office as president. He did nothing wrong. But feel free to continue making a martyr out of him... it only boosts his support.