Lawmaker issues subpoena to FBI for Clinton probe records

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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The FBI was served with a subpoena today after refusing to turn over documents to congress concerning the investigation into Clinton's mishandling of classified documents, which they ordered. "The FBI doesn't get to decide what I get to see. I get to see all of it."

    The FBI ordered all documents that have been sent to be treated as classified, though much of it is not. "I don't expect to have to issue a subpoena to view unclassified documents" he explained, before doing just that. I think this is going to leave the FBI with a real black eye.

    Listening live, it is also noteable that Mr. Pagliano has refused to attend an emergency hearing, under subpoena, as well. Thats not gonna go well.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ubpoena-to-fbi-for-clinton-probe-records.html
     
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    Mr. Pagliano should do some jail time.
     
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    A powerful Republican lawmaker abruptly stopped a hearing Monday on Capitol Hill to serve a subpoena demanding the FBI’s full investigative file on the Hillary Clinton email probe to a top official, telling the man “you are hereby served.”

    The FBI could fight the subpoena, though analysts say a resolution could come quickly.

    “We decide what's relevant -- not the Department of Justice, not the FBI,” Chaffetz said. “We are entitled to the full file.”

    Democrats on the panel dismissed Chaffetz’s theatrics at the emergency hearing and insisted the sole purpose of the hearing was to undermine Clinton's presidential bid.

    “As far as I can tell, the only ‘emergency’ is that the election is less than two months away,” Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., said......snip~

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...to-fbi-for-clinton-probe-records.html?ref=yfp

    Message to Elijah Cummings. [​IMG] No (*)(*)(*)(*) Sherlock! Duh! [​IMG]
     
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    I will say this about the Clintons... They do inspire loyalty, their friends often end up dead or in jail.
     
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    Headline seeker Jason Chaffetz still chasing ghosts and political grandstanding? What a surprise......
     
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    Try again....if he wanted just a headline. He would just say something about Hillary and or the Democrats to get their panties tied into knots.

    But way to deflect about throwing a wrinkle at the FBI. Just like they did when they gave a surprise immunity to another IT guy who destroyed evidence.
     
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    Yeah. The poor guy always uses delusional theatrics to seek attention.
     
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    Well that, and the fact that even after being issued a subpoena for the records on her devices, Secretary Clinton's people saw a need to destroy those documents.
     
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    You don't know your team very well, young Jason Chaffetz is extremely ambitious and will do virtually anything to further this ambition. He is just like his predecessor - just another partisan hack......and I doubt very much the FBI is concerned........except they have to deal with a partisan hack, it gets tiring - like dealing with a child having a 'bad moment' LOL.
     
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    Paul Combetta should to.....But the FBI does have a chance at redemption.



    Don’t Let Comey Put a Criminal in the White House.....


    Hey, Jim. Something about your memo doesn’t ring true—and it’s not just your prickly tone. I carried a Top Secret clearance for three decades so I got all the briefings and I signed all the papers and I know damn well that Hillary’s grossly negligent handling of classified information—which your investigation documented—is criminal. And somewhere in your Washington-shrunken-soul, you do, too.

    What we’ll call the revelation of the BleachBit Timeline gives you a shot at redemption. The BleachBit Timeline documents obstruction of justice that you cannot ignore. Timeline dates matter, and the dates in question begin September 20, 2012—nine days after the Benghazi disaster:

    I presume a serious professional detective like yourself has read Part IV of the Benghazi committee’s report, the proposed version issued at the end of June and the updated version in early July. If you haven’t read it, well, it’s high time you got to it. (Here’s a link to the Part IV pdf on the committee’s website, provided for your convenience.) Part IV is tedious reading. As a government worker, you ought to be able to handle that. Part IV provides the deep and documented background for the obstruction of justice charge.

    Political obstruction segues into criminal obstruction and The BleachBit Timeline. March 2, 2015 is a critical BleachBit date. That’s when The New York Times reported Hillary had a private email system.

    Sharyl Atkinson has kept a running Benghazi timeline that is quite thorough and admirable. I recommend her timeline as a reliable reference. (Atkinson has character and grit. She has the courage to take on powerful crooks. Between you and me, Jim, you’d do well to follow her example.)

    However, Zerohedge’s September 3 timeline directly addresses the obstruction of justice. Here are some critical dates, courtesy Zerohedge. PRN means Platte River Networks, the outfit who Hillary hired to handle her rogue server system. The Apple MacBook mentioned in the timeline contained backup copies of Hillary’s emails.

    •Early 2014—Monica Hanley advises Undisclosed PRN Staff Member to wipe the Apple MacBook clean after uploading Hillary’s emails to the new PRN server but he forgets to do it
    •Early 2014—Undisclosed PRN Staff Member mails Apple MacBook back to Clinton and it is promptly lost
    •Dec 2014—Hillary delivers 55,000 emails to State Department
    •Dec 2014/Jan 2015—Heather Samuelson and Cheryl Mills request emails be deleted from their computer using BleachBit
    •Dec 2014/Jan 2015—“Unknown Clinton staff member” instructs PRN to remove archives of Clinton emails from PRN server
    •Mar 2, 2015—NYT releases an article showing that Hillary used a personal email server in violation of State Department rules
    •Mar 4, 2015—Hillary receives subpoena from House Select Committee on Benghazi instructing her to preserve and deliver all emails from her personal servers
    •Mar 25, 2015—Undisclosed PRN Staff Member has a conference call with “President Clinton’s Staff”
    •Mar 25-31, 2015—Undisclosed PRN Staff Member has “oh (*)(*)(*)(*)” moment and realizes he forgot to wipe Hillary’s email archive from the PRN server back in December…which he promptly does using BleachBit despite later admitting he was aware of the existence of the preservation request and the fact that it meant he should not disturb Clinton’s e-mail data on the PRN server”
    •Jun 2016—FBI discovers that Undisclosed PRN Staff Member forgot to erase 940 emails from the gmail account he created to help with the PRN server upload

    In a letter sent to Platte River Networks on September 6 (the day before your protesteth too much memo), Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), now head of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, gave the FBI credit for confirming that Hillary failed to turn over work related emails despite repeated requests and subpoenas to do so.

    I employ italics, Jim, to get your attention, because, dammit, Chafetz is doing your job. He’s going after the little fish to get to the shark. That’s how you Feebs operate when you’re doing your job. How come you didn’t indict this anonymous Platte River Networks employee for knowingly destroying subpoenaed evidence? I’m not the first to ask this question. Jonathan Turley asked it on September 6......snip~

    http://observer.com/2016/09/dont-let-comey-put-a-criminal-in-the-white-house/
     
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    Looks like they have to deal with someone who knows what subpoenas are. Do you think the leftness putting on blinders can make those go away? Do you know what a subpoena is. Do you need to have that explained so that the dense grey matter filters? We wouldn't want you to think others are taking unfair advantage of you now.

    Oh but I know your team very well and all their partisan hacks. Heres a clue.....just because someone is partisan. Doesn't mean he don't know what the truth is. Unless they lean left. As they tend to have trouble with reality when cheerleading their Cult leader on.
     
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    Not only one subpoena but two of them. Leaving Hillary, The State Dept, and the FBI no out.

    Plus now another subpoena.


    Clinton IT specialist ignores subpoena for House hearing; other witnesses plead 5th.....

    The former State Department IT specialist who set up Hillary Clinton’s private server ignored a subpoena to appear Tuesday before a House committee hearing, while other tech experts who helped maintain the system asserted their Fifth Amendment right not to testify – frustrating Republican lawmakers trying to dig deeper into the former secretary of state’s email setup.

    House oversight committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, said he’ll now consider a “full range of options” to address IT aide Bryan Pagliano’s “failure” to attend.

    “He should be here. … It is not optional,” Chaffetz said. “His attendance is required here.”

    Pagliano is considered a vital witness in the Clinton email case. He spoke previously to the FBI under immunity, telling the bureau there were no successful security breaches of the server. Pagliano also refused to answer questions last year before a House panel investigating the deadly 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya. His lawyers said at the time that Pagliano did not want to relinquish his rights under the U.S. Constitution's Fifth Amendment against self-incrimination.

    Two other officials from Platte River Networks, Bill Thornton and Paul Combetta, did comply with subpoenas to appear. However, when it came time to answer questions, they pleaded the Fifth. The Denver-based technology company maintained Clinton’s server when it was moved from her Chappaqua, New York, home to a data center in northern New Jersey.

    Combetta took the Fifth six times and Thornton took the Fifth four times, before both witnesses were excused.

    The only witness remaining after the unfruitful initial questioning was Bill Clinton aide Justin Cooper, who answered lawmakers’ questions.

    During that process, he confirmed that he had access to the Clinton server but did not hold a security clearance.....snip~

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...house-hearing-other-witnesses-plead-5th.html#

    Issue a warrant for Pagliano and make him come to Congress and plead the Fifth like his buddies did.

    Then find them guilty for failing to cooperate with Congress and make sure they do not work in government ever again. No need to convict for a crime. Hook for protocols and procedures.....and remove any security clearances they have or will ever hold again.

    Send them out as a disgrace before the American people.
     
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    You are in favor then of suspects destroying evidence and ignoring congressional subpoenas?
    Well that's great! We don't see enough people these days coming out against the rule of law and civilized lawful behavior.

    I think society would be better off if more people were like you and just did whatever the hell they felt like doing to cover up and obscure their criminal
    antics. Anarchy all around! Well done, trail blazer!
     
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    Nope, never said what you claimed I said - I am not in favor of 'suspects' destroying evidence etc. (suspects, LOL). I am in favor of ridiculous, time wasting partisan witch hunts being stopped. How long will this nonsense from the right continue???
     
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    Chose which side of your mouth you wish to speak out of. If you don't approve of the deliberate destruction of subpoenaed material then how are you going to stop it when you also claim to oppose "witch hunts" (always so called witch hunts :roll:) that try and hold those destroying evidence responsible?

    Clearly there is a lie here since you can't simultaneously hold opposing views. Let's just charitably say your post is absurd and not to be taken seriously.
     
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    Yeah I was wondering how they deny the subpoenas being issued. So far.....its just flat out deny they exist. Hence the BS about partisan witch hunts and everything is a vast Right wing conspiracy.

    They forget the OIG report didn't clear Hillary or her people. His findings were before Comeys. Comey and the FBI can't change his findings. They are final.

    Now Comey and the FBI do have to acknowledge the subpoenas were in effect. That with what they discovered. Now they need to acknowledge that the subpoenas were violated and disregarded.
     
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    Actually, your post is absurd - what "destruction of subpoenaed documents" are you talking about? This thread and the link in the OP referred to Chaffetz requesting, by subpoena, documents from the FBI. The documents Chaffetz wants to see are FBI records which are unedited, unredacted summaries of the federal inquiry into Ms. Clinton's supposed mishandling of classified information. These are the documents being discussed.

    You are claiming these FBI documents were destroyed, please prove these documents were destroyed? If you can't let's just say your post is absurd and not to be taken seriously.
     
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    First off, I think Clinton is a criminal, and anyone lower down in the pecking order would be under the jail for doing less than she did. With that said, this is nothing but theater going on, wasting time and treasure, for nothing but political fighting. For nothing ever comes of this stuff. It is all for show. For what can these legislators do? NOTHING. They are not the justice dept, and the justice dept is not gonna touch Clinton. Period, end of story. Which makes this as corrupt as Clinton is. This is the way an oligarchy works folks, They do not imprison their puppets.

    So, if you want to hurt Clinton, to wring a little bit of justice, vote to keep her arse out of the oval office. Which will be hard to do, for a corrupt gov't, probably does not have a non corrupt electoral system. As the carter center said, you cannot monitor US elections to see if they are fair, for the system is set up to disallow it. LOL. Imagine that, and what an example to set for the world. We set such great examples in so many areas, not just this one.
     
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    Actually I said "destruction of subpoenaed materials" such as the emails that were permanently wiped out by a Clinton IT
    worker. It helps to use your brain when reading and comprehend what is being said. I hope that isn't too taxing.

    Whichever it is you seem more outraged by the people trying to investigate these criminal misdeeds than the people committing the misdeeds themselves
    and that says so much about you. How sad and pathetic.
     
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    That charge by Cummings may have had some validity had the investigation not begun well before Hillary Clinton was chosen as the Democratic candidate. That they chose a possible felon to represent them, and a serial liar, doesn't speak well for their judgement.
     
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    What they are doing is keeping the issues, or at least this one issue, in the public mind. That's very important because most of the scandals have been forgotten, as Hillary and Co. knew they would be. It becomes 'old news' and 'time to move on'.

    That is what happened with the closing of charter schools, Benghazi, the IRS, Dept. of Agriculture, The VA, Fast and Furious, the corruption of the 'stimulus', and many other scandals now largely forgotten.

    The government, as you suggest, has to have a purge throughout the system with the heads of each department being replaced by demonstrably good people with proven records. The only candidate able to do that, and willing to do it, is Donald Trump. .
     
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    This thread is about FBI documents Chaffetz wants to see, where does 'Clinton IT' come in to this?. It helps to use your brain when reading and comprehending. How sad and pathetic........
     
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    Check and see who the Mr. Pagliano, referred to in the OP, is and why he is part of this thread. And once more we have someone paying the sincerest form of flattery to me by mimicking my exact language.
    My, what a bunch of jealous minded little people we have online today.

    And btw, let me add once more how you seem outraged by the person trying to end the destruction of subpoenaed evidence but not by the destroyer of said evidence itself. And that is just wrong and plainly a perversion of our justice system itself.
    How does it feel to be an anti-democratic enemy of our system of laws? Good? Fulfilling? Admirable?
    Or something quite less than all that?
     
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    [video=youtube_share;MpQ6X4ojHws]http://youtu.be/MpQ6X4ojHws[/video]

    :roflol:
     
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    Sorry, I could not find any reference to Mr. Pagliano in the link provided in the OP. The link contained a video of Chaffetz having a subpoena issued to the FBI and the article was about the FBI documents in question that Chaffetz requested. I watched the Chaffetz video, there was no mention of Pagliano - what part of the link was this video in? I did read a piece about him not showing up (and why). The FBI piece was a different story.

    http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/former-clinton-it-aide-thumbs-nose-at-congressional-subpoena/

    My fault for any confusion, I was just responding to the FBI portion of this.
     

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