Let's dispel the myth that poverty causes terrorism. It Doesn't!

Discussion in 'Terrorism' started by Pregnar Kraps, May 14, 2013.

  1. Logician0311

    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    I challenge the implied assertion that you can read the minds of all mankind and speak for all of us.

    That is more of a commentary on the media you watch than it is on reality.
    Every time an islamic person commits a crime, his religion is called out. What would the news sound like if this happened with Christians?

    And you are burying your head in the sand in order to hypocritically villify one group of people... is this not silly?

    You mean by ensuring that people don't get to violate the 1A by legislating their religious beliefs?
     
  2. Logician0311

    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I'm an atheist who believes all religions are equally flawed. Nice attempt at flame bait though.
    Stay classy.
     
  3. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    You are quibbling. Grasping at straws. Making false equivalencies. Projecting your own shortcomings. And arguing in vain.

    The debate is over.

    You know the score.
     
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    Tuatara Well-Known Member

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    I believe that if America (or any other western nation) were ever to recieve the same treatment the middle east has recieved in regards to invasions, bombings, puppet regimes, foreign control ...etc and if these nations defences were a fraction of what they are now, I truly believe many people would be strapping on bombs themselves.
     
  5. Logician0311

    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    The fact that you cannot illustrate how it is rational to fearmonger over Sharia law while supporting politicians who legislate on the basis of their religious beliefs is a due to a false equivalency?
    You have yet to demonstrate how this equivalency is false. I wonder why? (Hint: because it isn't)

    I definately know the score. :)
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    [video=youtube;bNfDkmcqj2U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNfDkmcqj2U[/video]

    You should get a chuckle at this video.

    :)
     
  7. Mushroom

    Mushroom Well-Known Member

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    Then explain Japan in WWII. Where thousands of their brightest and most educated demanded their country adapt suicide tactics, willingly volunteering to fly aircraft and submarines on one way trips.

    Once again, you are confusing intelligence and wealth with poverty. The two have nothing to do with each other. This is a false connection.
     
  8. Mushroom

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    Sorry, but once again false analogy.

    We see such behavior in any area where fanaticism becomes a driving force. Japan, Russia, Germany, Spain, Middle East, anywhere that one side adopts fanaticism to a belief (be it political or religious) and takes it to the next step where not only do the lives of others mean nothing, but their own lives mean nothing in the advancement of their ideals.

    And if you want to talk about puppet control and invasions, look no further then the mid 1700's in the United States. Such actions against the US are not unknown in our history.
     
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    The problem is that many people are thinking this type of action is a new development, while in reality it stretches back over a century.

    Tsar Alexander II was killed by a trio of suicide bombers in 1881. The Anarchists were particularly rabid in the use of bombs, and a high percentage of them were killed in deploying them (they were crude, primarily used hand lit fuses, and had blast radiuses larger then their ability to throw them). Spanish fascists used them many times in their Civil War, often times loading themselves down with dynamite and charging at Nationalist emplacements.

    And of course we have the worst school mass murder in history, the 1927 Bath School Disaster in Michigan. Where a bomber loaded the school with dynamite and blew it up, killing 38 people. He then drove his truck to the school after the blast about a half hour later and called the school superintendent to his truck. There he blew up another bomb he had placed in his truck, killing himself and 5 other bystanders.

    And there are many others. The Poe Elementary Bombing in 1959 was a suicide attack. The Continental Airlines bombing of 1962 was driven by insurance fraud. The same with National Airlines in 1960. And of course the plot to kill Hitler was a suicide bombing.

    The more modern "explosive belt" actually dates back to the Second Sino-Japanese War, where this was a common tactic used by the Chinese against Japanese tanks.
     
  10. Logician0311

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    Wait, are you claiming Japanese military pilots in WW2, who attacked military targets (such as Pearl Harbor), were terrorists? Please clarify your definition of terrorism.
     
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    When you and your children are so poor that eating dirt is your only option AND some group (like ISIS) offers you food for joining their ranks AND you are MUSLIM (like them) you might opt to join and be indoctrinated that the 'West' is responsible for your plight.
     
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    I never made such a claim, please refrain from HUA and stop trying to talk from a biased preconceived mindset and understand what is going on here.

    Suicide attacks (from anybody, "terrorists", military, individual) is generally based upon fanaticism, not education or economy.
     
  13. Logician0311

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    I see, so your example of Japanese pilots during WW2 was purely an association fallacy... Got it.
     
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    Poverty has nothing to do with terrorism. As stated political or religious fanaticism are what drives it. Currently it is Islam that is the main culprit and prior to that it was fascism.
     

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