Live-Action The Little Mermaid Movie 2023

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  1. Pred

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    It comes from woke Leftists assuming the power in media and corporations.

    You don’t seem to understand. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy and you’re reacting exactly as predicted. Leftists complain about overt manufactured racism EVERYWHERE, yet when anyone else points out real racism, they tell you to shut up or stop complaining…uuuum what? So YOU guys can create racism out of thin air, but don’t you notice all the REAL racism occurring. Shshshshss. Squirrel!!!

    If they cast Black Panther as a white guy people would go bonkers because it would be moronic and stupid. I’d think it’s stupid too. He’s black and always should be. And it’s Same here. It’s STILL stupid but perfectly fine because racism against white people as ALWAYS fine in Leftist land because WE deserve it. You admit it. It’s no big deal. What’s the problem? White character race swapped, Just sit there and shut up. And you don’t even know how racist you all are. Just like Kamala. As racist as they come. Perfectly confident to say the most absurd racist **** and Leftists just agree and nod along.
     
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    hehe. It’s called fan fiction. Rings of power is totally fabricated by current day writers ignoring all the source material. And thankfully it’s getting obliterated as it should be. Woke BS needs to be called out and pointed at until they don’t dare pull this **** and stop ruining everything.
     
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    Heh, I guess it actually is fan fiction, except not written by actual fans,
     
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    What did they write that contradicts the previous material? I keep asking. No one has been able to answer.
     
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    What, specifically, did they write that specifically contradicts the source material?
     
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    That's actually the first time I've seen you ask that question so I don't know if anyone has tried and failed to answer it. But my comment about the show being fan fic is that is simply because of the low quality of the story.
     
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    Then why is your focus on race and not the low quality of the story?
     
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    You literally barged in and reply/quoted me discussing the low quality of the story! Apparently that's not of interest to you, since we've already established that you're just here for the racebaiting.
     
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    I wasn't the one who brought up race. And the only thing you've discussed with me about the show is race. You are projecting your racebaiting onto others.
     
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    Heh, I was discussing the quality of the story and here you come barging in talking about race! Is there more about race that you feel needs to be discussed? Lord knows we don't talk about race enough on PF.
     
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    It’s been discussed far longer than the Rings of Power. The Tolkien historian was fired from the show for questioning the cast choices. Black Elves and Dwarves were never described in any writings. Always described as fair and everything is based on English and EU folklore…white. Humans were black but not Elves, Dwarves or Hobbits. Elves came from a land with no sunlight. And all the races are quite xenophobic, especially Hobbits. Where would black hobbits come from:) The imagination of woke writers, that’s where. It doesn’t work and the show is suffering because it’s not Tolkien.

    Jackson would have cast various races if it was in the writings. Amazon completely changed previously established characters, and created new ones to fit more woke ideology. The Galadriel depicted doesn’t even exist and is TERRIBLE.
     
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    A gown-ass white man complaining about a little black girl getting a chance to play an iconic, yet completely fictional, character.

    Why is it only grown adult males care about this snooze fest?
     
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    Maybe she identifies as a fish.
     
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    Almost all fairy lore and other works that Tolkein draws from originated in the Middle East, much of it Persian. It was imported during the 16th century and romanticized with a distinctly anglo flair, but the proto-stories are all much older than England itself.
     
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    It's asinine to complain about the color of a character in a completely fictional creation ... you don't think that black, or Indian, or other readers might have imagined the characters looked more like themselves? It's how our imagination usually works. Now you can complain about the quality of the writing, the story, the sets, the arc of the character, but complaining about the skin color of FICTIONAL characters is just silly-assed nonsense and small-minded bull crap.
     
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    Ok. That’s fine. Just so you know I expect all Leftists to NEVER mention white washing ever again. Like I said, when Disney adds some white and Latin tribes in Wakanda, to add more diversity, no one will cry about it:) We have random black Viking god people, because there are plenty of blacks in Norse mythology, hehe. Diversity for thee but not for me:)
     
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    Correct. Still doesn’t explain the forced diversity when it goes ONLY in one direction.
     
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    So when all of Hollywood and Leftists complain about Black Panther being recast as a white guy no one better complain. Oh that’s right, that will NEVER happen. Wonder :)

    And that’s the question. Why is it OK to race swap one direction but racist to race swap the other way?

    Answer that question.
     
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    This thread is filled with examples of white actors who were given non white character roles. WTF. Your faux outrage is noted.
     
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    Black Panther is dead. A new character will take up the mantle in the next movie. And his race actually has something to do with the character. Ariel's race doesn't. It's immaterial. And we've had multiple examples of the race swap happening the other way, including with real historical non-white characters who were recast as white. I shouldn't have to remind anyone that mermaids are not real and that Ariel is not a historical figure.
     
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    People want to see themselves in strories. Tolkein lived in an almost entirely white world. Movies are now being made for audiences around the world. Making movies is a business and investors want the biggest return on their investment. Your offense means nothing in terms of the massive non-white audiences out there that now have money to spend on high quality movies and shows. It's also rather silly to whine about the mix of flesh tones being strange when the whole thing is pure, fantastical fantasy. Wait until you learn about giants and the law of squares.
     
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    Really, are there MORE black people in audiences today? Eh, not really. Just MORE representation. You think THEY drive the money or is it Hollywood manufacturing it? You understand China isn’t so keen on black actors right? Which world wide audience is demanding more Black representation? No one!!!! Just Leftists and Hollywood. There already is a decent percentage when you actually break it down. It’s naturally balanced. How many white people are in Bollywood movies by the way? Or Chinese cinema? You think they shoehorn people in counting quotas, hehe.

    How’s Rings of Power Doing? Can’t find anyone who actually likes Tolkien and NOT in the media who likes it. Sorry. If you liked the books and older movies there is nothing good about Rings of Power compared to what was done prior. It’s a step down in every facet and it’s because they ****ed with the lore. Acting, story, even FX. Yeah, they’re worse than decade old movies.

    And like I’ve said a million times I’m not whining. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy and YOU people keep ignoring the point because it blows up in your face. So you create strawmen, because you have no argument.

    I’ll ask AGAIN. Do you think everyone would remain silent if they remade Princess and the Frog with white actors? NOPE, because Disney would NEVER do it because it’s wrong. And why would it feel wrong? Because it makes no sense. The characters are established. They’re supposed to be black. Blade should always be black. Everyone in Wakanda shouid always be black. Don’t see any diversity in that society? Why? No different than black Hobbits with different accents:). How did an extremely protective and xenophobia race of people accept taller black humans into their culture? They didn’t. But hey, when writers are just making **** up in an attempt to score diversity points, there ya go.

    Create characters and stories that work and you won’t have to count quotas. Casting will occur naturally. And you won’t have to market your movie by citing how many of X representation you have. Because no one will care, because the movie is good on its own merits, NOT because you need X of this and Y or that.
     
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    Not sure what to tell you. I strongly suggest you not go see this movie and let Hollywood worry about their own bottom line. I have no other help to offer, though I’m sure Hollywood execs appreciate you worrying if they will be able to put food on their tables.
     
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    Perhaps they are objecting to the cultural appropriation of White culture.
     

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