Long Island restaurant 'canceled' for flying Trump flag

Oh no, people might have to face the consequences of their choices? How terrible! Please. Show me one boycott that has ever ruined someone's life. The Emmy noms have already been announced, but keep up the drama and maybe you'll get one next year.

 

I wholeheartedly agree. Don't mix business with politics at the retail customer level. Bad move.

Law lags technology.

Our voices can now travel and amplify in ways not conceivable a decade ago. While that's great in the political sense with political speech, it has also amplified speech intended to harm individuals. It has harmed individuals and way out of proportion to reasonable. It's in technologies ability to scale instantaneously without filter and without test the voice of one malicious individual into a thousand like minded idiots.

We can deal with the village idiot. A nuisance maybe but still just the crazy neighbor. Now let the idiot call a convention of the surrounding fellowship of village idiots and meet at your business. Thousands for days, pooping on your lawn. You'd be buried in **** by midnight and your property would be condemned.

It's too much. We'll probably need to limit these campaigns that intend to destroy another individual for legal acts. Probably through libel laws.

If I lead 4 people on a hike through a fragile wilderness habitat, I'll be mindful to leave no trace and do no harm. If my clarion call to march through the great outdoors sees thousands traipsing, slogging, camping, pooping and trampling everything in a wide swath I've without doubt caused irreparable damage to the park.

It's a balance issue and one of liability.

Interesting. I wonder how we'll work it out.

 

Good lord for the third time. I said it's what the left believes.....and they do believe it.

And it's hilarious you posting about facing the consequences of ones choices when the modern left is built on blaming other people for everything. I've seen people blame the rioting on Trump. People choosing to destroy cities and it's somehow someone else's fault....as if they are being forced to be violent criminals.

 

Considering that the GOP is a criminal enterprise and via their anti environmental policies they are determined to destroy the planet and fatten the bank accounts of rich people accelerating the gap between the rich and poor and take away health care of 20,000,000 I'm totally fine with it. Boycotting is as American as apple pie.

Apparently he didn't learn that, in business, if you start getting into politics, you are going to alienate half of your customer base.

I've owned two businesses and I never talked about politics, ever. It's not good business to do that, so, karma's a bitch, they say.

 

She doesn't have to say it or intend harm, but the scale of "viral" response can get heavy and she focused it.

It's a tool that demands respect and responsible use. Responsible, meaning if the viral response she started overwhelms the target, his neighbors, his town's services then she should be responsible for the damages caused.

It's like yelling fire in a crowded theater.

 

Wow, not a spec of truth....impressive.

Agreed. Don't talk politics, don't donate to political causes....nothing.

 

There's a real rash of histrionics in this thread. All she said she was going to do was post on a Facebook page that she runs. It would be the equivalent of leaving a Yelp review and directing people to it. Unless she lied about something (i.e. defamed the restaurant), there isn't anything to hold her responsible for.

 

Let's rethink this.

Mrs. Social Silencer decides that Jamal just isn't the right type for Perfect Place Trailer Park. He's a plumber, has crack and dreadful political ideas, he's got to go.

Mrs Social Silencer uses the internet to spread the word, stop using Jamal, he's not us, he's not acceptable, he must go. She tells her friends to boycott Jamal, shun him in the street call him names.

Get the ****ing picture you bullies.

Yeah, some of this is getting criminal. Cancel culture acolytes need to be criminalized.

 

Your point is well taken but don't you think for a second this is going too far? Just because he has a Trump flag? C'mon!

 

I'm not sure what any of that drivel has to do with me or the thread. What do riots and "what the left believes" have to do with a woman complaining about a restaurant on a Facebook page?

 

Get your head out of the sand. People are being fired across the country for merely questioning BLM tactics or policy.

It's happening!

 

He needs to file suit.

 

It's the shout down epidemic. It's freaking wrong. Witch hunts come to mind. Purges and purity tests.

Been there, done that, doesn't work.

 

Sure, I think she's over reacting, but people over react to junk all the time. Complain about her on the r/karen subreddit and move on. It's just as much of an over reaction to blow it up into "the left is trying to destroy my life and destroy my family!"

 

Lol, sure. On what basis, exactly?

 

And that has what, exactly, to do with a woman complaining about a Trump flag in a restaurant?

 

Boycotts are the tools of bigots and haters. Why else would they boycott?

You libs literally are what you hate.

 

Haters, sure. Bigots, though? For not liking Trump? I wasn't aware that "spray tan" was a race or ethnicity. The drama virus seems to have infected you, too.

 

That’s a racist comment. Hating a white man is racist.

 

Is that supposed to be what they call a "dad joke" these days? I give it a 4/10.

 

If she's able to do harm, for the harm. The fact that you think it's fine to deliberately trash people's businesses because you disagree with their political views is exactly why these suits are important. Why do you think it's OK to run around being the Gestapo?

 

Really? The Gestapo? Were you able to write that with a straight face? If she didn't lie about anything in her FB post, then she didn't do any harm. Otherwise every negative review on Yelp or a company's FB page is "doing harm."

Let me see if I can play the same silly game: Why do you want a woman's first amendment rights trampled on just because she doesn't share your political views? See how ridiculous that sounds?

 

When libs started to call math, grammar and bullet proof glass racist, then everything we’ve ever known is racist.

 

And that has what to do with this thread?

 

Yes, and if your intent is to slander them because you disagree with their political views, and you cause harm, you can be held liable for the damage you deliberately caused.

To prove defamation of character, the victim has to show that you made a statement that was published, it caused the victim injury and it was false and was not a privileged statement.

The statement must be damaging to the individual, including to his or her reputation. This may require that the individual show how he or she was damaged from the statement, such as being ostracized from a social group or losing business at his or her store. Some states have “slander per se” standards in which certain statements are presumptively slanderous, such as statements that a person committed a crime, was professionally incompetent or was promiscuous or a carrier of a disease.

Truth is a defense to a defamation lawsuit. It is not libelous or slanderous for a person to repeat a truthful statement about someone, even if the statement may damage that person’s reputation.

You think libel and slander is a "first amendment right?" Who told you that?