Man Dies From Toothache, Couldn't Afford Meds

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/insurance-24-year-dies-toothache/story?id=14438171

Harvard medical school estimate one American dies every twelve minutes due to lack of insurance. 45,000 deaths a year due to lack of insurance.

What kind of country are we when we can provide foreign aide and build roads in Afghanistan and yet we kill our own so that health insurers may profit.

We are a sick country that kills our own so that ceo's and board members can have private jets.

We need universal health care.

 

As an unemployed man why was he not covered by medicaid?

 

Doesn't the third paragraph of the OP cover that?

I'm not sure that any hospitals offer dental facilities and he may have been referred to a dental practice.

 

The third paragraph does not explain why he was not covered by medicaid, it just states that he attended a hospital emergency room. My understanding of medicaid was that it was a form of single payer for the poor. Separate to the requirement that hospital emergency rooms provide treatment to all comers.

 

Because medicaid is actually pretty hard to get on, and it takes many hurdles to get on. For instance if you own a home and you are recently unemployed you better sell your home, go homeless, and spend all of your money on medical care and food before medicaid will help you.

 

Again are you aware how hard it is to get on medicaid? You don't just get on it if you are unemployed.

That is the immorality of our social programs. I am forced to pay for others to have better care than myself, and if I am unemployed I have to spend or get rid of everything I have worked for to get said care that I paid for others to have.

 

Generic antibiotics cost about $15 for a prescription. A lot of stores now offer free antibiotics. And doctors/dentists usually have free samples. If he couldn't afford $15, or was too dumb and lazy to look into these other options, then he's too pathetic to live.

 

That's something of an assumption, without knowing the facts.

 

What's to assume? Was he mentally handicapped? Was he so broke he couldn't afford $15? Are only liberals allowed to assume things?

 

No I'm not, on this forum I have seen posters claim that all poor Americans are covered by medicaid, that the recent overhaul was unnecessary and the only people without healthcare were those who chose to go without insurance. I'm honestly surprised that unemployed persons are not covered by medicaid.

 

Have a link to the $15 script thats not attached to a $150 doctor visit because the last time I checked you have to have a doctor to get script .

 

Really that is not the case at all . Medical care in the USA is all about $ thats it no compassion no nothing . You will just have to die if you have no insurance ( as if they pay what they are supposed to anyway) or cash . That simple .

 

How very conservative Christian of you.

 

We should stop all unnecessary foreign aid to lower the tax burden, and start tort reform to lower the costs of medicine.

 

Hogwash. Baseless propaganda. Follow me.

From your article:

http://www.meijer.com/pharmacy

Marburg Ave
4825B Marburg Ave
Cincinnati, Ohio 45209
(513) 458-2400
Drive-thru available Pharmacy
(513) 458-2464
Pharmacy Hours:
Monday - Friday: 9am - 9pm
Saturday: 9am - 7pm
Sunday: 10am - 6pm

Now, most Dentists insist that the infection is gone before proceeding with extraction.
All that, before we discuss anything else. Took me 3 mins to put this together.

 

You kind of prove my point. As a Conservative, you definitely prove my point.

 

True story. How do I know? I was there when it happened.
Man, young, on medicaid, came to ER via ambulance, because of toothache. Free of charge to him.

 

I have news for you: Universal Health Care will not inoculate stupidity.

This guy could have had free antibiotics as well.

And there was nothing stopping you from donating money to causes like this yourself. You killed him.

(That last part uses a much logic as your jump to conclude that we need Universal Health Care).

...and - because I'm stubborn like that - how many Canadians die while waiting for surgeries that are now rationed?

That's a better reason to abandon Universal Health Care than your appeal to emotion supported adopting Universal Health Care.

 

Myths of the efficacy of Universal Health Care explained.

 

Tort reform is another middle finger to the common people . First off theses doctors pick this profession so they pay for malpractice insurance , to put a cap on what a patient can recover for the (*)(*)(*)(*) up the doctor makes is stupid . If the Doctor does not want to be sued he needs a schedule he or she can handle no 32 hr shifts .

 

But the prescriptions were not?

 

And if he didn't have a prescription for antibiotics that are part of that program?

 

We should get on the same page.
Indeed, anyone who falls ill should be taken care of, somehow.
In this instance, we should consider the dear man's poor choices.
Sadly, what I am observing since the new HC bill, is that more and more HC providers refuse to take insurance at all. This new concept may lower the overhead and cost, but for those who can't afford to self pay, this may be another burden, make matters worse.

 

You did notice that this guy had the money for pain pills???

If a $50K stay in the ICU would have kept an old brain dead person alive for two days and the family either couldn't afford the $50k or hesitated until Dad died then that death is counted as a no insurance death.

You knew this? .... Health insurers posted a 2.2 percent profit margin last year, placing them 35th on the Fortune 500 list of top industries. As is typical, other health sectors did much better - drugs and medical products and services were both in the top 10.
.... were the Bush years golden ones for health insurers?
Not judging by profit margins, profit growth or returns to shareholders. The industry's overall profits grew only 8.8 percent from 2003 to 2008, and its margins year to year, from 2005 forward, never cracked 8 percent.


Does the idiot liberal horde think that the government who is incredibly inefficient can provide more services than the insurances do now for less than the 8% profit we are paying now????

So you thing that putting the private jet builders out of there high paid jobs would somehow help get more people insured???? What is it 250,000 people that would be affected? Let's not worry about them because they are doing things that make us sick to the stomach. Designing, building and servicing these rich people's jets. And the rich business man would be trapped on a commercial jet for hours where he can't be productive for his company - that would hurt the hated corporate structure and that must be good for the people who get their insurance from the corporation. So we could add a few more people to unemployment as the corporation deciles while the boss sits on an air port run way for ten hours.

Do you have any idea how many sick people get free rides on these jets?

Luxury Air Jets Sponsors Benefit for "The Disabled and Hospitalized Veterans" and September 11 Firefighters. The annual cocktail reception to benefit The International Trade, Cultural, and Charity was dedicated this year to the disabled and hospitalized veterans, and to September 11 firefighters.
Self serving I'm sure, so let the disable sit on the tarmac for a few hours.

According to flight records, Panetta and Daschle, while not in public office, accompanied Educap’s Catherine Reynolds on flights to private business meetings not related to the charity…And records show Reynolds took Chicago’s Daley and his wife on 58 flights including ones to Turkey, Asia and Sweden.

Sorry that one is about the abuse of a charity's private jet. I'm sure that a lot of republicans dot eh same thing.

Angel Flight West is a nonprofit organization that arranges free air transportation for medical and charitable needs. Many medical patients need specialized treatment that is not available in their hometown such as lifesaving dialysis, chemotherapy or surgery. These patients are often unable to fly themselves, due to health limitations or financial restrictions.

Many of the life saving transplant organs fly in corporate jets but we should let those people die because it just isn't fair for a CEO to have a jet to get from place to place in a timely and efficient manner.

 

Did you read the article? One more time...

Doctors are quite aware which antibiotics are offered, and pharmacies will contact the physician, free of charge, if change in prescription is necessary.