man involved in car crash charged with manslaughter after woman has miscarriage

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Already done.

    Killing an unborn child is manslaughter, unless you're the mother and have an exception to being charged with manslaughter.

    Well, under the time limits imposed by whatever state you live in anyway. If you have an abortion outside of that time frame you can be charged.
     
  2. JakeStarkey

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    vman12 simply does not comprehend the laws is the point here after 300 posts.
     
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    :) It' s hilarious how totally turned around and backward your view is....but if you really want to pretend the UVVA came before RvW you go right ahead....nothing in the real world will change...
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And if you think UVVA has anything to do with RvW you're fooling yourself.
     
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    I never said it did!! It excludes abortion.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There you go. You answered your own question.
     
  7. JakeStarkey

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    vman12, you have every right to believe as you will. but the reader has no obligation to your personal facts, definitions, and narrative. They cannot substitute for accepted terms, definitions, and findings.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great.

    Go ahead and tell me what term or finding I got wrong.
     
  9. JakeStarkey

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    Too many to go back.

    But the very next time I see it, I will let you know.
     
  10. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you've got nothing. Thanks for your input.
     
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    What! The UVVA does NOT make abortion legal !!!

    WTF are you talking about ???


    NOW I know why you couldn't answer :

    I asked the question """"""""""""""Where is there an "exception to make abortion legal" ???????....it is legal..."""""""""""""""


    Why couldn't you answer that? Because you are totally confused and think the UVVA made abortion legal...:roflol::roll::roflol::roll::roflol:
     
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  12. JakeStarkey

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    You will be the very first to know.

    And there it is: #304

    I leave you to Fox's castigations
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LoL sure. This is like fending off 5 year olds.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lot of mental fail there.

    The UVVA recognized an unborn child as a human being when it allowed murder/manslaughter charges to be applied to people who kill them.

    If you don't understand how that impacts Roe V. Wade, I don't have the time to understand it for you.
     
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    NO, it recognized the fetus as a victim, NOT as A human being.........so you're wrong again...as you were when you insisted UVVA mad abortion legal :roflol:
     
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    Indeed, that is exactly what we are doing with you. Fetuses have no rights outside of their links to the mother. They are "not recognized as human beings, and that will be what it is until the law changes.

    Your opinion that "The UVVA recognized an unborn child as a human being" is merely your false conclusion.
     
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    Let's get back to the definitions and terms thing.

    Fact: Manslaughter can only be charged when you kill a human being.

    Fact: The driver was charged with manslaughter.

    Ergo, the fetus is a human being.

    I'll let you get back to arguing with critical theory and circular logic.
     
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    Not in America. Manslaughter, as well as murder, can also be a charge if you kill a potential human being in certain circumstances.

    A potential human being.

    Your own argument is faulty.
     
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    NO, it recognized the fetus as a victim, NOT as A human being.........so you're wrong again...as you were when you insisted UVVA made abortion legal :roflol:
     
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    vman12 can argue all he wants, but fetal manslaughter chargers never confer person hood on the fetus.

    http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/fetal_homicide_laws/

     
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    Did you read that link...it's an anti-abortion site.....it's an diatribe containing the error that a fetus either is or isn't A human being...and like some posters ignore the fact that the UVVA uses the word "victim" not " a human being".
     
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    fetal manslaughter chargers never confer person hood on the fetus.
     
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    Go ahead and give us the definition of "manslaughter", since you're so keen on "terms and definitions".
     
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    What other living being besides a human being can be a victim of "manslaughter".

    Go ahead I'll wait.

    Also I never said UVVA made abortion legal, that's your own failure to comprehend English.
     
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    Perhaps you can provide us with the definition of manslaughter.
     

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