Margaret Sanger

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  1. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

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    Then prove it. No one has done that. I have presented documented quotes from HER OWN BOOKS. Take one of those statements and show that she did not say it. Where have I been corrected? lol

    None of you have done anything. I posted things from her own books. I posted an article in its entirety…from Sanger.

    You are full of hot air…and have done nothing…about anything on my list.

    I don't want your morals….that are man made. I am not lying. I have posted as I said legitimate quotes…and sited them. You have done nothing but say…they are lies…come on take off the dark glasses and get with it.

    As for me not running…it was days before it took you to say one thing on this thread. I work and have a job….I don't sit here daily all day like some. Don't you have another life? LOL

    Now show me where the quotes I posted that are attributed to her…are lies.
     
  2. churchmouse

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    You see that this thread is not frequented often by the pro-abort crowd….
    for all the obvious reasons.

    They can't defend Sanger……and that is the truth.:clap:
     
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    And The Silence Continues…..
     
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    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    I had the same difficulty on another thread you are having. The difference being, however, that my posts include proofs that Sanger was financed by Republicans Rockefeller, Bush, and Gamble.
     
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    Margaret Sanger addressed a gathering affiliated with the Knights of the Klu Klux Klan because she sought support for her Negro Project.
     
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    ... her campaign and racist genocidal project being financed by Republicans Rockefeller, Bush, and Gamble.
     
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    Margaret Sanger was one of the biggest racists this country has ever seen. Didn't she found Planned Parenthood?
     
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    Yes she did in Brooklyn, NY around 1921 with money she got from Republican Rockefeller. Several people (myself included) have posted links and quotes from her books which clearly and unequivocally prove she was a Hitlerian racist.
     
  9. churchmouse

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    You know this is not a discussion about all those in bed with Sanger…I am sure there are very notable people who funded her racist agenda.

    She was a racist and that is the discussion here. You are trying to take the focus off of her….

    The silence in her defense is deafening……
     
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    AGain this is not a debate about Republicans against Democrats or of religion….THIS IS ABOUT SANGER…..SO PLEASE JUST COMMENT ON HER…DEFEND HER IF YOU CAN.

    WAS SHE A RACIST…DID SHE LIKE SHE SAID WANT THE WEEDS…PLUCKED FROM SOCIETY?
     
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    What's the point in a character assassination piece on a now-irrelevant dead woman?

    Margaret Sanger's racism and eugenics platform is no news to anyone. It's not relevant today, because it's got nothing to do with contraception or abortion today.

    Times change. If someone said the things she said today, they would be ostracized, made a mockery, and eventually ignored.
     
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    Most the pro-aborts on this site defend her. But none will come here to address what she actually said. They deny she was a racist.

    And you are right…if someone said what she said…if they did what she did…she would be toast. Look what happens to people who even in a comedic routine…make jokes…their careers are ruined.

    My point and I am going to start adding start posting more…is that SAngers goals are still those of Planned Parenthood. They love her and have NEVER CALLED HER OUT ON HER VIEWS. Hillary Clinton…and many female politicians have hailed her as someone of great moral integrity.

    PParenthood honors this woman all the time.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4o4WizW2mQ"]Hillary Clinton Honors Margaret Sanger at the 2009 Planned Parenthood Honors Gala - YouTube[/ame]

    http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=hillary+clinton+on+margaret+sanger
     
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    I agree with every one of those except 3 and 5.
     
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    If we are just going to deal with Sanger and no one else then you need to tell all the right wingers on this forum to stop saying Democrats are responsible for abortion's legality or existence. For example, you just posted a link with Hillary Clinton on it in order to show once again how, in the minds of righties, Democrats are to be blame for the proliferation of abortion.

    You do not want me to discuss Republicans in this context. Yet, you openly draw in Democrats into the conversation.

    One thing I have repeatedly seen on this forum in the short time I've been here is the endless double standards employed by you on the right wing:

    You say don't engage in name calling - yet so many of you do the same and worse. You attack welfare for the poor - yet applaud corporate welfare. You call yourselves "pro life" but applaud as 45,000 Americans die every year from lack of health care. And now this.

    You don't me to mention the Truth that Republicans financed Sanger and made her what she ultimately became? Fine - then don't say Democrats are responsible for abortion's proliferation today.

    It is time for you to practice what you preach.
     
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    So you buy into all of these..right?

    “mandatory sterilization of the poor as a prerequisite to receiving any public aid.”

    “required to submit applications to have a child,”

    "to prevent the multiplication of bad stocks,"

    “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population”

    “their choice of segregation [concentration camps] or sterilization"

    “Apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted”

    “Stop bringing to birth children whose inheritance cannot be one of health or intelligence.”


    Wow.....because Hitler believed the same ones to be true. Do you consider yourself a racist?
     
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    "Mr_Truth said,

    I am not going to tell them anything. The party that supports legalized abortion is the DEmocratic party. They do not want protection for the unborn and in most cases many are for infanticide as is our president Obama. But I know many Democrats who are not pro-abortion and disagree with the platform of their party. I do not know of any Republican women in office right now who champion the worlds of Sanger. If you know of any I would sure like to know. SCOTUS is responsible for the legalization of abortion…and they were fed lies..mainly by people who were pro-abortion…and those people were not Republicans that I am aware of. If you look at SCOTUS today…they are either on the side of the D or the R when values are concerned. That is why when a seat opens up there is war between Republicans and Democrats as to who gets on. Someone who is pro-choice or pro-abortion.

    The ones who are accountable whether abortion is legal or not…are the people doing the killing themselves. They are responsible for killing. But our government could make abortion illegal and save lives…because the majority of women would not get them if it was illegal.


    I googled politicians who liked Sanger….who championed her work. Hillary is the one who came up. Someone said that pro-choicers did not celebrate or care about Sanger…….and that is wrong as you see by the video. If you can find an example of a Republican that celebrates her work…then post it.

    Well I would suggest really reading the threads concerning this if you are new. I do not call names or demean anyone…so to say I do is wrong…and unfair. The thing is…that you don't obviously get. When I call someone a pro-abort they get mad. They do not like the label even though their stance is pro-abortion…they think they have a solid moral stance on this issue. That can not be…not when you do not want protection for human life.

    This issue has nothing to do with welfare. That is another thing you don't get. You want abortion legal…like Sanger did…to get rid of certain segments of the population. You want the government to run our lives. You don't think we should be held accountable for our actions…that the government somehow owes us something. You think mooching is good….I don't. You obviously are a socialist…I am not. I do not believe Ms. Obama has any right to tell me or anyone else what to pack in my childs lunch pale. I do not believe the government has the right to allow my children to legally go behind my back…to kill. I do not believe our Constitution says…we are owed free anything.
    I do not applaud anyones death…and for you to say this shows your heart…and and what you lack….not what I do.


    If anyone sponsored Sanger they are terrible…ok. Do you get this. I don't care what label they wear…Christian women get the most abortions in America…so what…its killing no matter who does it. But who is trying to stop it? The Republicans….or Democrats? Who opposes abortion reform?

    I am not talking about Hillary…or the Republicans….this discussion is about Sanger….and her life, actions etc.

    What you are doing is blaming. But that is a trait of the side you are on…socialism…those on the LEFT…Democrats. Sanger….did what SHE DID…she did not need money to say the things she did. And hey…. you obviously are pro-abortion, so you should hold the Republicans that funded her…in high esteem..you should be a Republican for petes sake. LOL



    I practice what I preach…you need to open your eyes to the evil of what Sanger represented and her racist views and quit blaming…that is if you can.
     
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    Once again you demonstrate an inability to comprehend even the most basic English. Had you bothered to read what I have posted on this forum you would know I am a pro lifer and have said so about 10 times already.

    No further use in discussing this any further as you are twisting everything in a manner that lacks any rationality.
     
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    I believe whites are vastly superior to any other race, yes. But I do not consider myself a racist because I would never personally attack a person of another race except to save my life or those of my loved ones.And frankly, I would like to see a lot of sterilization voluntarily done by those of inferior races.
     
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    Mr. Truth…..are you pro-choice?
     
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    ARe you pro-choice?
     
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    I just am in a playful mood today…and find this funny.

    My thread…over four hundred views….and look how many posts from the pro-choice, Sanger people.

    THIS SAYS IT ALL…..DOESN'T IT?

    Thank you Jesus.
     
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    Not every pro-choice has to support or care about Sanger. I dont care about the ancient history of PP or its founders, what PP does now is whats important today. Even if Sanger was a Hitler 2.0, its of no argument against current PP, or current pro-choice movement.

    Its the same argument that evolution is evil because Darwin was a racist. Even if he was, it does not diminish modern evolutionary theory at all.
    So you should stop condescendingly pretending you have some kind of a great point with this thread. Unless your point is showing how you can use logical fallacies.
     
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    Margaret Sanger the 'Queen of Genocide' quotes...

    "We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

    Ref: Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

    "Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."

    Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.
     
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    Margaret Sanger's Negro Project has been wildly successful. She tricked African Americans into embracing abortion as a form of contraception.

    African Americans are only thirteen percent of the populace, but almost half of all abortions are performed on African American babies, and their share of the population is kept under control. Margaret Sanger was an evil genius.

    She persuaded African Americans to embrace their own democide. How stupid is that?
     
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