Marijuana is drug most often linked to crime, study finds

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Drugs in Portugal: Did Decriminalization Work?"

    http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html

    "Judging by every metric, decriminalization in Portugal has been a resounding success," says Glenn Greenwald, an attorney, author and fluent Portuguese speaker, who conducted the research. "It has enabled the Portuguese government to manage and control the drug problem far better than virtually every other Western country does."


    "5 Years After: Portugal's Drug Decriminalization Policy Shows Positive Results" April 7, 2009


    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=portugal-drug-decriminalization

    ending prohibition is the way to go...

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    If there was no age restrictions on cigarettes and alcohol, the teenage usage of those substances will skyrocket. Having age restrictions on alcohol and tobacco stops lots of kids from getting their hands on it. If there was no age restrictions, the teenage usage of alcohol and tobacco would skyrocket.

    However, comparing illegal drugs to regulated substances is not accurate. Drug dealers are shady people. They don't advertise their business openly in big stores. It's not like kids can just go into the supermarket and buy illegal drugs without an ID. Therefore, comparing cigarettes and alcohol which are regulated with ID checking, to the illegal drug market, is a very flawed comparison.

    Drugs being illegal make them less available.
     
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    Nobody has ever overdosed on tobacco. Does this mean that tobacco is safer than alcohol? Of course not! Tobacco has its own dangers. Cigarette smoking is actually more harmful healthwise than moderate alcohol consumption.

    People have died of lung cancer from smoking marijuana.

    And yes, there actually have been marijuana overdoses, and here's the evidence for you.

    https://familycouncil.org/?p=6506

     
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    I guess you didn't read either the links, or the quotes I got from them. Marijuana use is not linked to any increase in mortality. Tobacco certainly is. Alcohol certainly is.

    So you found three cases (well, it's more than zero) where unaccustomed heavy use indirectly led to a very uncommon type of stroke

    And as for the billions in enforcement, the organized crime, the increased crime rates, the jailed population, and everything else? I notice that once again you simply pretend these things don't exist.

    Do you EVER think?

    There is no valid case here. None. Your pathetic scraping through the bottom of the barrel trying to find some threadbare rationalization, while ignoring the whole herd of elephants in the bedroom, is flat stupid. Period.
     
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    Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Bunny Wailer, a whole genre of music was founded on it...its called Reggae.
     
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    Hmm. Burning plant matters creates carcinogens, and many reggae singers, Bob Marley included, died of cancer.

    Smoking pot causes cancer.

    That "pot has never killed anyone" statement is a total myth.
     
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    Holy Crap what a brady bunch response, how old are you? I can walk into ANY, any high school right now, and walk out with pretty much any drug, legal or illegal you want right now.
     
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    You can drown in two inches of water should we make going to the beach or the pool illegal? there are 37000 deaths due to alcohol nationwide according to the CDC, yet they have no category for marijuana, why?
     
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    If people got a spike in blood pressure, which resulted in a stroke, which can be fatal, from smoking too much pot at once, this shows that there have been overdose deaths from marijuana. Besides, smoking marijuana causes lung cancer and emphysema, which are both fatal health conditions. I highlighted the most important facts below.

    http://www.webmd.com/lung/copd/news/20000320/regular-marijuana-emphysema

     
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    Bob Marley did die of cancer, melanoma, skin cancer which spread to his brain and lungs. What causes melanoma? exposure to ultraviolet rays from the sun. Bob Marley's death is not attributed to us of marijuana. So either you are being dishonest to begin with or you made a mistake which is it?
     
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    These studies show that smoking marijuana causes lung cancer and emphysema.

    http://www.webmd.com/lung/copd/news/...uana-emphysema

    Those are both fatal health conditions.
     
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    Once again, very conveniently, you ignore the costs of failure to legalize. You know, the BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ENFORCEMENT, IMPRISONMENT, ORGANIZED CRIME, INCREASED CRIME RATES.

    You have no valid case. None. Pretending to be stupid doesn't hide this.
     
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    Yet the center for disease control (CDC) shows that there are 37,000 deaths that are linked directly to alcohol consumption in the US, yet they have no category for marijuana....why?

    Oh yeah, http://www.medicinenet.com/alcohol_abuse_and_alcoholism/related-conditions/index.htm

    I'll take my chances with the burning plant.
     
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    Why are nanny-Statists so unpatriotic to their Cause by not justifying nanny-State tax rates to Prohibit forms of Commerce among the several States?
     
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    The federal government has the right to override state laws.
     
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    In July 1977, Marley was found to have a type of malignant melanoma under the nail of a toe.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Marley

    Maybe he used his toenail as a roach clip, eh?
     
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    Only in those areas delegated as necessary and proper for the general government of a Union of sovereign States. The social Power to Regulate forms of Commerce (well), is the only power still delegated to our federal Congress since the repeal of the social Power to Prohibit the same was repealed as a bad idea in modern times.
     
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    When you feel emotionally committed to an indefensible position, we're getting a Free Home Demostration as to what you have to do. Sam has never had a valid case, and how he's reduced to pretending he's too stupid to pound sand.
     
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    What about emphysema?

    http://www.webmd.com/lung/copd/news/20000320/regular-marijuana-emphysema

     
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    I don't want to criminalize tobacco, I just don't want to make the problem even worse.
     
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    There is no logical reason for criminalizing marijuana because it may cause respiratory problems if you smoke 3 joints a day if you agree it doesn't make sense to criminalize tobacco for the same reason.
     
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    Let me ask you a question. Do you support just legalizing pot, or all drugs in general?
     
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    Sam, give it up. You're advocating that we spend a dollar to save a penny, and you keep insisting that it's a real penny, honest, just LOOK at that penny. And that penny is SAVED, honest, it's real savings. And how about the dollar you spent to save it? Hey, LOOK at that penny!
     

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