Marjorie Taylor Greene Makes Alarming Promise About Ukraine If GOP Wins Congress

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  1. TheAngryLiberal

    TheAngryLiberal Banned

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    She comes off as a bit nutty sometimes, but I think she's spot on about this one. Democrats are willing to send basically unlimited amounts of tax payers dollars to fight the Russian invasion of The Ukraine, but when it comes to the invasion of the United States at our own southern border, they could basically give a **** and just let the invaders keep pouring in, along with fentanyl and other drugs which is killing hundreds of thousands of Americans every year. That's what really bugs the crap out of me about Democrats, they spend BILLIONS protecting other countries citizens, but when it comes to the protection of the AmericanTax payers paying the bills, they just allow them to be victimized over and over. I'm pretty sure a lot of the people murdered, because of Democrat soft on crime policies, voted and supported the Democratic party and then in their last breaths they regret their rediculous Liberalism that led to their own demise. Good on you Marjorie vowing to stop the Democratic Money grows on Trees politcies that are bankrupting this country and destroying it's economy.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-makes-alarming-082116327.html
     
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    We could have built the Great Wall of China all the way across our Southern border for a fraction of what they're giving Ukraine
     
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    The border isn’t open. That’s a RWNJ lie that you have fallen for.
    Apprehensions at the border are up. Not an open border.
     
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    The border is absolutely open, and Dems like it that way. To bad they have been so successful at socially engineering people to not be able to see past the surface level.
     
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    And it still wouldn't stop 90% the influx of illegal immigrants and 100% of the guns/drugs/etc.
    Anyone who promises you that they can stop it is full of bs.
     
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    MTG will still be an outcast even if the Republicans have control of congress.
     
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    I get that there are some who feel Ukraine is a waste of time and money.
    I'm not going to argue against that, but, as a world leader, I don't think the USA should sit on the sidelines and watch one country decimate another.
    Seems like she is willing to let Russia do whatever it wants. Maybe we'll get lucky and the voters in her district will find another representative.
    She is, for all intents and purposes, an idiot.
     
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    I know, that's what you want folks to think, and you're willing to push this BS because you're offended the dear leader and his policies are being challenged.

    The DHS estimate that so far, over 2M illegal aliens are crossed the border. Of those less than half were "apprehended", and less than 10K were returned to Mexico. So, even if they were "apprehended", they aren't leaving.

    So, why are you so motivated to spread the Left wing lie?
     
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    Really? Were is your rage for Yemen? Our MSM doesn't even report the travesty taking place there by another country!

    US-Saudi war on Yemen has killed 377,000 people – UN estimate
     
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    I agree. I was extremely bothered by our inaction there, in fact, it's even worse. We were/are arming the people who are attacking Yemen. Remember the school bus full of children with US bomb fragments?
    Remember the reason Congress refused to sell weapons to the Saudi's, but then Trump approved it anyway?

    There are also other places, like in Africa, that we have ignored while giving over attention to other areas.
    The only explanations, to me, are strategic or financial. It's not an easy call to make most of the time, but if we are outraged at one thing, seems like other situations deserve some attention.
     
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    their goal is to draw millions of hand out seeking illegals who will be given voting rights sooner or later
     
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    Of course it's open. That's a fact.
     
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    There are too many Americans in The United States to suit the Democrats.
     
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    I have always appreciated your posts, but with this one you seem to be oblivious to the Big Picture regarding the actions of the federal government in Ukraine over the years, especially in 2014.

    The sad truth is that with McCain, Obama, Biden, Nuland and others, the US government has been largely responsible for what we see today.
     
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    It never occurred to you that apprehensions are up because their are more illegals to apprehend?
    Just wow
     
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    Yes, that’s almost certainly the case. But if the border were “open” there wouldn’t be any apprehensions.

    The border is clearly NOT open, since apprehensions are up.
     
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    So now you think if the border was closed, apprehensions go up?
    Again, Just wow
     
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    I think that when it comes to who we aid and who we don't is complicated. There are many interests we have around the globe, and we don't have unlimited resources, so decisions have to be made, and sometimes sacrifices.
    On one extreme, we could pull in all aid and help no one, keeping all of our resources within our borders. At the other extreme, help everyone with everything, which would seem impossible.
    So, we come to internal agreements in Congress, who to help, why and how. I won't point blame or criticism at any one person, because it isn't any one person's fault or decision, but sometimes it seems unfair to help on but not another.
    Additionally, we help some that don't need it as much (my opinion) and ignore others who desperately need it, and those are the situations that bother me.

    I'm not sure which "big picture" you refer to, but I do know that Ukraine is a sovereign nation, Russia is invading them, and they aren't doing for the people living in the areas they are attacking. "We're here to save you, that's why we're bombing you and starving you" doesn't work for me.
    To me, it's kind of like Mexico invading Texas to take back the land we took from them.
    When the human race is advanced enough, there will be a world governing body that hopefully will eliminate the need or apparatus
    That rationale doesn't really work, as history shows territories around the planet have changed hands over and over. That's why there is so much turmoil in the middle east. Everyone there can point to history and say this territory is rightfully theirs or these people did ours wrong sometime in the past.
    Jerusalem is a great example. How many times has it changed hands historically?
    We, as inhabitants of the planet Earth, need to learn how to adapt and get along rather than continually fighting about the past.
    Maybe that's the arrogance of being an American showing, but America has taken a role of world police many, many times. We should argue and discuss how we, as America, deal with these issues.
    My opinion is that we can't sit on the sidelines and watch a group of innocent people get slaughtered. Eastern Europe saw enough of that in the 1940's. And, interestingly enough, the political arguments back and forth were pretty much the same as now.
    I already have a severe dislike for Greene, so I'm biased, but she is stating a sentiment some Americans have. I don't agree with her.
    Looking at the big picture is great, but don't forget to pay attention to the details at hand.
     
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    mental gymnastics
     
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    Balancing Act

    To broaden your horizons and understanding of the history of Ukraine, consider viewing Oliver Stone's documentary.

    Ukraine On Fire (rumble.com)
     
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    Thanks! Don't have a lot of time at the moment, but I'll check it out later and get back to you.
    Learning and education is key, imo, to making the next advancement for the human civilization.
    We do need to keep the past as a reminder, as long as we don't get fixated on it.
     
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    The crowd cheered when Bill Clinton called illegals a scourge on the country. That changed when Bush beat Gore and the DNC realized they needed every vote possible and sent out a memo saying Latinx are the future of the democrat party, does anyone remember that?

    As for MTG's comment, I fully agree with her. If you think about it, we can only go back to normal if one of two things happens, either Putin pulls out of Ukraine or Ukraine is defeated. But where is Europe and the UN? This is in Europe's backyard and isn't the UN supposed to help out with these types of things instead of calling the US racist and saying our elections suck?

    Here is an ad put out by MTG. Libs, you're not going to like it.

     
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    If the border is open, there won’t be any apprehensions.
    Apprehensions = efforts to secure the border.
     
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    Not at all. If the border were “open” there wouldn’t be any border patrol. No apprehensions.
     
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    So now 5 million illegals who were apprehended over two years just magically materialized in the US because the border is closed.
    Well alrighty then lol
     
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