Most Prophets mentioned in koran never existed

I'm confused. The koran gives credence to prophets , David , moses , Noah and so on…
but we have zero archeological evidence that some of these people ever existed .
Moses for sure should be able to be traced…

Even Hollywood had to have the Pharaoh say that Moses name must be stricken from everything in order to convey the fact no one can find a trace of evidence of this man and the exodus…let alone jews being slaves to Egypt..

so we need to explain to our Muslim Brothers that they need to revise the history spelled out in the Koran.

 

Muslims accepted all the OT patriarchs.. Moses, Abraham, Noah and so on... NONE of them existed.

 

but it says they are prophets in the Koran…these are mythical non entities …how does one cope with the words of a god that profess about fictional characters who are bonafied prophets in their right and need to be respected..

i had a few hoops to jump through in order to believe in some of the stuff i used to believe in..at least i admit it…


again marlowe evades the actually point and skews the topic with something to protect her agenda..

 

Christians and Jews also accept these mythical patriarchs.. Why don't YOU start with Jews and Christians?

I too had perfect Sunday school attendance as a child.. and I am not an atheist.. I just see the stories as didactic literature.

 

It is rather funny, to see a Christian expect a Muslim to provide evidence of Characters from the Bible(s) because they see them as fictional.

Considering the FACT that there is little actual evidence the Prophet/Son of God/Christ entity existed in the first place.

Could it be these are all stories built upon stories that were stories before Sumeria even existed?

 

Most definitely.. All religions borrowed from one another..

Go back to the Ugarit.. There's a thread about it.. Fascinating stuff.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=276763

From the Ugarit to the Bible.

 

There is evidence for these people.

Recent genetic tests on Jewish priests alive today have evidenced that they are all related to just one common father who lived @ 13450BC, i.e.; Aaron.
That Exodus tells us the sons of Aaron would be the priests forever after, is strong support for the whole authorship of the Torah, as attributed to Moses in the Exodus story, indeed.

We also have genetic evidence that all three of the Racial Stocks which appeared 40 thousand "days" ago had one common father, too, i.e.; Noah.

David is supported by a number of recent archeological discoveries, including his seal and other evidences.

 

There is NO such evidence... LOLOL

 

I told you that there is evidence in the genes of the Jewish priest who were the sons of one man, Aaron.
Recent genetic evidence validates that Aaron and these "sons" became priests as described in Exodus.

Jewish tradition, based on the Torah, is that all Cohanim are direct descendants of Aaron, the brother of Moses. The Cohen line is patrilineal -- passed from father to son without interruption for 3,300 years, or more than 100 generations.

The Cohen line is patrilineal -- passed from father to son without interruption for 3,300 years.

 

Prove it.. Even the Cohens don't buy into that clap trap. Don't you know by now that I have Cohens in my family???

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Prove it.. Even the Cohens don't buy into that clap trap. Don't you know by now that I have Cohens in my family???

 

A study was undertaken to test the hypothesis.
If there were a common ancestor, the Cohanim should have common genetic markers at a higher frequency than the general Jewish population.

In the first study, as reported in the prestigious British science journal, Nature (January 2, 1997), 188 Jewish males were asked to contribute some cheek cells from which their DNA was extracted for study. Participants from Israel, England and North America were asked to identify whether they were a Cohen, Levi or Israelite, and to identify their family background.

The results of the analysis of the Y chromosome markers of the Cohanim and non-Cohanim were indeed significant. A particular marker, (YAP-) was detected in 98.5 percent of the Cohanim, and in a significantly lower percentage of non-Cohanim.

FURTHER CONFIRMATION
In a second study, Dr. Skorecki and associates gathered more DNA samples and expanded their selection of Y chromosome markers. Solidifying their hypothesis of the Cohens' common ancestor, they found that a particular array of six chromosomal markers was found in 97 of the 106 Cohens tested. This collection of markers has come to be known as the Cohen Modal Hapoltype (CMH) -- the standard genetic signature of the Jewish priestly family. The chances of these findings happening at random is greater than one in 10,000.

The finding of a common set of genetic markers in both Ashkenazi and Sephardi Cohanim worldwide clearly indicates an origin pre-dating the separate development of the two communities around 1000 CE.
Date calculation based on the variation of the mutations among Cohanim today yields a time frame of 106 generations from the ancestral founder of the line, some 3,300 years -- the approximate time of the Exodus from Egypt, the lifetime of Aaron HaCohen.

Date calculations based on the mutations yield a time frame for the Cohen line of some 3,300 years!

 

LOLOL.. and did they compare this DNA to other Jews and Palestinians?

 

So does my family, and we believe Science especially genetic evidence:

Science News, October 3, 1998
Wider genetic studies of diverse present day Jewish communities show a remarkable genetic cohesiveness. Jews from Iran, Iraq, Yemen, North Africa and European Ashkenazim all cluster together with other Semitic groups, with their origin in the Middle East. A common geographical original can be seen for all mainstream Jewish groups studied.


This genetic research has clearly refuted the libel that the Ashkenazi Jews are not related to the ancient Hebrews, but are descendants of the Kuzar tribe -- a pre-10th century Turko-Asian empire which reportedly converted en masse to Judaism. Researchers compared the DNA signature of the Ashkenazi Jews against those of Turkish-derived people, and found no correspondence.

The research has shown a clear genetic relationship amongst Cohanim and their direct lineage from a common ancestor. The research findings support the Torah statements that the line of Aaron will last throughout history:

"... and they shall have the Priesthood as a statute forever, and you shall

consecrate Aaron and his sons." [Exodus 29:9]
"... it shall be for them an appointment to an everlasting Priesthood

throughout their generations." [Exodus 40:15]
"And it shall be to him and to his descendants after him a covenant of everlasting Priesthood." [Numbers 25:13]

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Of course...

The scientists were not Jewish.
Scientists do not make these statements without such comparison and verifications.

 

Its manure.. the Hebrews have always had foreign wives according to the Bible. They also had converts. You have fallen for a line of hockum.

 

I find it funny when religious people argue against other religious as if their position is more valid. LOL

 

it's delusional

 

i'm just trying to point out that this whole infallible Koran thing word of god thing does not hold up to science…


and now it brought out Aron and genetics…wow...

 

My Invisible Pink Panda is real, your Invisible Pink Unicorn is not...So there!

 

Do you believe in the power of God, such as miracles and a literal Resurrection ?

 

When there are trillions of random events that happen each and every day, there will be some anomalies. I see them as anomalies, you see them as 'miracles'.

There was never any resurrection. Every sun god gets resurrected after 3 days. the 3 days refers to the 3 days the sun sits in the sky at the lowest point (Dec 22nd - Dec 24th) before rising 1 degree on Dec 25th. This is also why most sun gods are said to be born on Dec 25th. And yes, jesus is a sun god.

 

Right, and the Bible or Book of Mormon does? LOL

If I remember correctly, you are Mormon..?

 

I am happy for you to answer that question Rstones but I assumed you didn't believe in miracles such as the Resurrection of Jesus the Christ but I was hoping that Margot2 would answer the question as to her belief on the matter because I have seen her professing her Christianity ..

 

Oh look at this... rstones199... a non-theist is admitting and declaring that Jesus is a god. It finally happened. rstones199 got religion.

 

I believe in God.. I don't believe in miracles. The message is important to me not the mythos.