Hello, dear forum members... so, let's cut to the chase, shall we? Well, the Spanish did it once - they kicked the Muslims out of Spain after 700 years of "colorful" life under Islam and Sharia law. Then the Inquisition followed... Today we have the same situation but on a larger scale - millions of Muslims flooding the West and quickly multiplying. Arrogant Turkey just showed it's real face calling westerners Nazi, fascists, squeezed oranges and so on. I believe most of you are familiar with their customs and specifications, so I will not be wasting time explaining. Where does it stop? What should we do? How do we stop the new Berbers? Should we require Muslims to convert out of Islam or get the **** out?
If you want Muslims out of the US, then you should write your Congressmen, Senators, President, VP, etc. Tell them that you want a constitutional amendment. Maybe you can even give them a suggestion, as to the verbage, to be used in the amendment.
No, but as always they should follow, respect and observe the laws and customs of the land and the door is open for them to leave if they're unable to adjust.
Horrible idea. As a Jew, I respect Muslims -- according to Rambam, Islam is a monotheistic religion. They follow all the Laws given to our common ancestor Abraham. But Jews have to follow more Laws from the time of Moses.
I imagine that some Jews do agree with beating and murdering women and gays and oppose freedom of speech and secular government, though I have no reason to believe you are a Jew.
Well, since I am European, this bothers me a great deal. America is naturally protected from Islamic invasion by its oceans and it's a save heaven... for now. Alas, Europe is not so lucky. Then I guess you must feel the love of your "brothers" in Iran, Syria, Iraq, SA and others - they want to tear you to pieces.
Well nobody can deny that wherever there are Muslims, there's trouble and strife? And often bloodletting.
If a muslim "convert" bus is still convinced of the Islam faith, you will keep the problem. I don't like muslims, but I believe in only one thing : individual judgment, you judge a citizen of your nation or someone who lived in on his personnal acts, not the one of the other black/muslim/white people.
Just for a quick remember, the golden age of spain was between 1400 and 1600. It will globally end with the 30 war year. Their is a lot of reasons if spain became less powerfull, but the morisco expulsion happened at the very end of that golden age.
Well yeah, but you don't judge a wolf by the ones that are in the zoo or are somebody's pet since birth. You judge wolves by the ones that are roaming the forest and feeding on sheep and dear. Every man or woman belonging to a certain culture is expected to behave in certain way - wear peculiar clothes, celebrate peculiar holidays, etc. And if Islam is about waging war against the infidels, how can you be sure that you're not going to be hurt, because you don't know which Muslim is peaceful and which wants to stab you in the back. It's like a land mind field - you could step on a mine or may be not, but that won't give you a peace of mind.
Yes, and if we consider things that way, USA is about being in war with everything and is probably as violent than Islam. In the 240 years of his History, USA was in war 220 years on 240. What kind of people would worship guns ? Look at a lot of USA movies, they seems to make the apology of solving problems with violence. Their is in USA culture a deep tendancy for violence, does it means that all US citizen are violent bloodthirsty barbarian ? Absolutely not, and I think we experimented all the opposite. The djihad problem is a huge problem in Islam, but muslims and islam are not only people blowing up themselves. We have to be extremly harsh with terrorists, to be extremly strict on many things, for instance respect of the women, but I don't think their is a need to feed the civilization war.
I have heard experts, as well as converts from islam, say that islam is not a religion, it is an ideology. In that case, I have often wondered why it couldn't be designated a terrorist organization. Then there would be many more avenues open I think.
Religions are ideology. However, at the opposite of J.Christ who was born and lived in a world ruled by the roman empire and declared things like "give to god what belongs to god, and what belong to Caesar to Caesar", Muhammed was born in a period of political troubles. Even if christian organization like catholic organization were extremly powerfull in the past, bishops were a different personn than the king, when in Islam, the "bishop" IS the king. Islam is not only a religion, it's a political project.
Islam is more of a political system than a religion. The Qur'an spends more time commanding Muslims on how to structure and govern a society than it does talking about their God's relationship with man, and how man relates to God.
As with anyone that decides to migrate here and is accepted, it should be expected (required) that they adhere to and appreciate the society we have created. If your religions does not allow for this then you should be immediately rejected. If said religion proclaims we are an enemy then we ARE now an enemy and must act accordingly. Either prove they reject this or stay away...how this can be accomplished is another story as religions inherently have no problem lying.
None of these ideas are part of Islam. Islam is monotheism and Koran contains all Laws given to Abraham. I do not post a lot on this forum. But the fact that I never post on Sabbath sort of shows that I am Jewish.
Well, that's the point, VotreAltesse - keeping cultures appart will save us from civilization wars. When everybody knows it's place and doesn't try to overcome the other. Mixing sheeps and wolves together will result in only one way - bloodshed. That's why I say - keep the wolves and sheep apart. Exactly! That's why it has no bussines in the West. No more than the fascist.
Muslims lived in peace with other religions in Spain, then Christians started the inquisition. Perhaps the Christians should be tossed out as they seem to have a history of naffing countries up.
May I is suggest that the Inquisition was a product of Islam? How so, you would ask. Very simple really - if you gather with evil people you become evil yourself. In physics that's called "diffusion". The mere fact that the Spanish inquisition was the sickest/cruel one must be a hint for you.
The Catholic rulers started their mass murder in an attempt to control the Jew and Muslims (They lived peacefully together before the Catholics took over) who had been forced to convert to Christianity. The thread title is suggesting a return to a situation that left thousands of innocent people dead.
World is not about evil/good. Their is pure evil like cartels, ISIS or nazis, but it's more complicated. Furthermore, at the very origin, Inquisition was not THAT bad. I mean, what do you prefer : being chased by an angry mob who will give no chance or end in the hands of inquisition and have some chances to have a sentence else than death penalty or even prove your innocence. Inquisition at the very beginning was about giving to the heretics and witches a trial and not simply killing them. The "fun" fact is that the inquisition rarely applied the sentence themselves, they just gave the sentenced to the local authorities who had the mission to apply the sentence because "church don't kill". Furthermore, they were some violences from the christian before Islam existed. One of the best example of those violence is the one who led to to the death of the female Hypathie of Alexandria killed by a christian mob in 415. The problem is that even if I hate Islam, muslims aren't just muslims. They are at first people, individual people. People who do some acts, have their personnal believes and personnality. Some muslims are even good people. What do you prefer ? A muslim who help poor people and is polite or a rude egoistic christian.
Please, spare us the story about the happy multicultural life of Muslims and Christians. If it was so good why did it end? It was so good that Spain uncompromisingly cicked out all Muslims because it was sick about their sneaky habbits and said "Enough is enough! GTHO!"
